I've seen it a few times; every time I see it I want to be out there with my dogs. Did you know (you'll learn this in part 2) that a breed was developed solely as a religious symbol.
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Jasper the Greyhound
Working Border Collies: Duncan (retired), Rae, Gyp (retired), Jody, Peg, Bette, BJ & Nell
2001 Chevy Express 2500 Cargo (rolling kennel)
2007 Nash 22M
They talked about a "religious symbol" type dog last night also. The one that's bred to be hairless except for that little "mohawk" on it's head and back, whatever breed that is.
Quote: Two years in the making, Pedigree Dogs Exposed (Tuesday 19 August 2008, 9pm, BBC One) lifts the lid on the true extent of health and welfare problems in pedigree dogs in the UK.
Be ware about part 2 about pedigree dogs. Don't be like the lemmings and follow that one too closely. PETA had its dirty little fingers in the input of that one. and by the way it is NOT true.
As we speak that segment has legal matters in the works against the bogus sources they used and the videos.
Just last month PETA put a bogus ad in a major dog magazine under an assumed name offering pet biscuits and win a free bag if you clicked on the the free doggie treat link.........it was revealed to be a PETA link and the free dog gift you received was a 'body bag'.
PETA has a lot of money behind them and they are a very dangerous group to ALL pet owners.
31 ft Four Winds
Chevy Tracker 4x4 Blue Ox We must be willing to get rid of the life we've planned,
so as to have the life that is waiting for us.
I've not seen all of the episodes to be able to make my own judgments. It amazes me the extent of physical changes induced in some breeds overtime, some of which have been very detrimental to the health of the breed.
George the Pug (Episode 4)
rear knee caps pop out of joint
elongated soft pallet
breathing problems due to face
in rolling of lower eye lids
curvature of the spine
etc
Son of Crufts Champion
QUALIFIED FOR CRUFTS
Genetics. 2008 May; 179(1): 593–601 Population Structure and Inbreeding From Pedigree Analysis of Purebred Dogs
Federico C. F. Calboli,*1 Jeff Sampson,† Neale Fretwell,‡ and David J. Balding*
*Department of Epidemiology and Public Health, Imperial College, London W2 1PG, United Kingdom,
†The Kennel Club, London W1J 8AB, United Kingdom
‡Waltham Centre for Pet Nutrition, Waltham-on-the-Wolds LE14 4RS, United Kingdom
Breed N/Ne
Akita Inu 2,864/45
Boxer 44,521/45
English bulldog 12,396/48
Chow chow 1,747/50
Rough collie 4,650/33
Golden retriever 31,259/67
Greyhound 16/17 (very few KC registered greyhounds, most come from the track)
German shepherd dog 43,488/76
Labrador retriever 97,884/114
English springer spaniel 23,721/72
N=population
Ne=effective population (based upon genetic diversity)
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I'm really surprised that anyone would be taken in by news media sensationalism most of which was started and proliferated by PETA a 'dangerous extremist group'.
Here is a perfect example of what actually started this:
The PETA Files: Top10 Most Over-Bred Dogs
Compiled by PETA, with OUT any facts, purely for the reason of creating a panic for any pet owners who chose to have a pedigreed dog.
Do you know that PETA goes under cover to horse shows and lets horses out of their stalls at fairgrounds right near the highways and many horses have been killed? Because PETA feels horses should not be ridden?
Do you know that PETA goes undercover to shows and goes into the grooming area and opens dog crates and releases dogs, again near highways and many pet owners have lost and/or had their dogs killed by PETA's actions? This happens weekly and monthly across the US. Special security has to be paid for by the clubs to ensure the safety of the animals to PROTECT them from a group that claims to be FOR the animals?
Pictures and videos of ANY animal or human with deformities can be found. BUT That does NOT in any shape of form mean that ALL of that particular human race or animal will have those abnormalities appear each and every time they are reproduced.
Also a lot of links provided are BLOGS.
Blogs are websites that are completely comprised of OPINIONS of the contributors. Look up in the corner of these websites you will see the blogger logo. Yet these links are flying around the internet as cold hard facts about nothing more than opinions of unsubstantiated tabloid news.
About 98% of each breed in the UK looks NOTHING like the dogs in the US. Their type, confirmation, and temperment is no where's likened to the US. Do you know that within the working group they 'promote' aggression type behaviour to obtain their titles?
And bottom line I find it amusing that this program is about the UK dogs and within minutes of it airing it is now considered via the internet to include each and every breed in the United States.
too much inbreeding => genetics diseases (based in science/genetics not PETA propaganda)
Degree of inbreeding in 10 KC breeds determined by:
Imperial College, London
The Kennel Club
Waltham Centre for Pet Nutrition
(no PETA here)
I wonder how much genetic diversity there is in North American breeds? I would not be surprised if the diversity is similar even if the "type" is different. Popular (winning) sires & dams increase inbreeding. I would expect the diversity of my breed to the the same here as it is in the UK.
What is the COI (coefficient of inbreeding) in your favorite breed (average COI) or individual dog?
COI
25.00% - parent/offspring or full brother/sister cross
12.50% - half brother/sister, grandparent/grandpup, or double first cousins crosses
9.75% - great uncle or aunt/great niece or nephew cross
6.25% - first cousins
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Here's a link of one person's opinion on this Mark, that 'you' would understand and find interesting. Opening stud books once again which requires DNA, which goes hand in hand with the 'now' identification of voluntary samples to identify markers is what IS going on and has been in the works for quite some time by 'responsible people who do care' and we have been working very hard to get this instituted.
You can NOT lump everyone that owns a pedigreed dog into one clasification as this show is attempting to do via the media.
You and I have had several discussion and we both understand the difference in our dogs relating to what and how each is bred and used for particular deciplines. And I think we are both on the same page for genetic markers/tests for diseases. This link does go into the discussion of the BC and RGH's.
What most pet owners don't know is that each breed club spends vast amounts of money donating to the University's to research disease common to their breed. Over the past ten years I have seen specific diseases totally eliminated by volunteering testing.
Where's the news media at the shows where we have booths set up for obtaining blood samples from the dog's to have it tested for various diseases? And the long lines waiting in front of the booths?
If a dog is found to be a carrier by a genetic marker it is taken out of their breeding program. And since as far back as I can remember without testing if it shows up it is never repeated again and all the pups are neutered to prevent ANY one from proliferating it.
Do any of you honestly think we would continue to breed 2 dogs and watch entire litters die and/or endure life from these diseases from known parent carriers?
Puppy mills, backyard breeders DO and continue to do so for the almighty dollar they get each and everyday.. AND...remember THESE people are allowed to register their dogs and they are the MAJORITY of the registered dogs. Yet the people who show are targeted?
And BTW outcrosses have higher increase of disease and can not be accounted for based simply on the vast variables. Line breeding offers you the opportunity to see first hand in the living specimens.
Look at the pedigree of a dog that is being shown. There will be 10 to 20 letters behind his name right on the pedigree.
These stand for what the dog has been 'tested clear of'.......try finding that on a puppymill, petstore, backyard breeders pedigree, you 'won't' because it costs money to do so and they won't part with one cent that dips into their breed dogs for profit agenda.
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