Bumpyroad
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tkeaton wrote:how difficult is it to remove an ordinance? Can "5" people go together and file for it to be removed/amended? a worthwhile ordinance to get put into place is one that would require notifying everyone in the town/township/city/county that there is a new ordinance that will affect existing people. Putting it into the paper, which very few people read, especially the public notices section, is not good enough
I was sort of wondering the same thing. if the majority of folks in that area are against it, why couldn't they try to remove the restrictions. Or burn down the houses of the 5 people in favor. On second thought, that last idea probably is not too good.
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Diabs
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Better yet, park the trailer in THAT person's driveway while ther at work and call the city!
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hpage3
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I ran into a situation where I planned on keeping my trailer a brand new Rockwood at my mother's house, in a nice but snooty neighborhood. Somebody mentioned covenants and we did our research and with our attorney found out that they only applied to the original buyer of the new house. My father bought the house two years after the original owner. Thus they were not enforceable. Then some snoots decided they wanted to form a homeowners association to try and prevent this type of useage. They wanted each owner to chip in so much $$. I kind of kaboshed this idea when I told them that not only could they be sued as an association but also as individuals. Hence ,no HOA in that neighborhood. In order to prevent any problems for my mother I did move the trailer to the family business and parked it near the warehouse.
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jamnw
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RetiredbutWorking wrote:Move to rural America. Find a nice lot in an un-incorporated area with no home owners association. The crime rate will be lower and your neighbors will be less intrusive. Things like tax rates and inusrance premiums will also be cheaper. IMHO your life will be a lot more enjoyable.
I second that!
I can see the reason for some of the restrictions, but there has to be some sanity in enforcement.
I know what I would do. Park it, put a cover on it, and wait for someone to make a fuss. Then I would worry about it.
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Wife'nHubby
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Tim from Alabama,
When you talk about 'captains', this sounds like a homeowner's association was formed in this neighborhood. If so, then they had to have a 'majority' vote for doing this. I'm not ignoring the city ordinances which were passed - I am looking at 'where' these thoughts stemmed from. Your relative bought in a new neighborhood. I would suggest he check his title policy on his home to see if there is any mention of a 'future homeowner's association'. If there is such a mention, then your relative should have been 'officially informed' by the convening body (the homeowner's association). If there is a homeowner's association and your relative was not informed via a USPS letter delivered to his home then the homeowner's association is in violation.
On the other hand, if there is no homeowner's association, your relative and others who oppose this new 'city' ordinance may have the right to petition for pre-exisiting conditions called "Grandfather's Rights". This would mean that "I had it on my property before this ordinance against it was passed and as long as it's here it is going to stay."
No, I am not a lawyer but I have fought a few very public issues within the city I live in. If something like this were to happen in our area I am very well versed in how to recall elected officials! 
One other step would be to have your relative or others opposed to these new ordinances check your local laws (or State laws) to find out what is the policy for 'direct legislation'. I personally have never had to go as far as 'direct legislation' but it is always a thought to keep in mind.
It is also a good idea to let elected officials know that they are in office to serve you (the general public) and that your public officials were not elected to serve only a select few.
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mcgillagorilla
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i feel sorry for the people who live under the home owners covenents that being said if you don't like it move. my self i would not live like that and if a noisey neighbor came over and said something about what i was doing i would tell him he was trespassing and to leave or i would call cops. i worked hard to live like i wanted to and as long as i don't infringe on others i expect the same out of them.after a run in with a noisey neighbor i would get one of the pre revelotionary flags out and fly it, you know the one with a coiled rattlesnake and the words don't tread on me.
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Bumpyroad
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"On the other hand, if there is no homeowner's association, your relative and others who oppose this new 'city' ordinance may have the right to petition for pre-exisiting conditions called "Grandfather's Rights". This would mean that "I had it on my property before this ordinance against it was passed and as long as it's here it is going to stay.""
at one of our early annual home owners association meetings when they were talking about adding all kinds of "big city type" nonsense, I raised the question of original buyers being "grandfathered" and our attorney present who was also a homeowner there indicated that we would be grandfathered so I would look into that aspect myself.
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David_NC
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Bumpyroad wrote:David_NC wrote:
If (the bold part) is what was passed, it's in violation of FCC regulations www.fcc.gov/mb/facts/otard.html. I think I'd put up the biggest, ugliest antennas and ask neighbors of the pricks that got the regulations passed if I could put some antennas up on their property... as close to the property line as possible.
"Masts higher than 12 feet above the roofline may be subject to local permitting requirements"
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12 feet above the roofline ought to get to 'em... as long as there's a a BIG antenna on top of it.
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behensley
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I have to thank God that I don't have any of the problems that have been posted here. I live in a small rural (hillbilly) community here in KY. Also, if you cross the street from my house you're in the city, but my house is literally "just out side" the city ordinance that doesn't allow any type of trailer.
I also agree with the convenience of having my TT on my property. Load and go is really convenient when the mood strikes. I also go out into my TT almost daily -- my wife calls it my "pouting house".
I hope that I never have to deal with this problem, and I sympathize with those of you who have to.
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Wife'nHubby
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I just thought I would add that we were successful in stopping a 'property maintenance' ordinance. This ordinance would have fined a homeowner if their grass was more than 6" tall ("Gone camping for three weeks - not home to cut the grass weekly" would not have been a valid excuse); broken or cracked windows would have invoked a 'non-habitable' eviction and/or jail & court fees. Glad we got that one knocked down too as we have one window in the kitchen with a crack in the lower corner. The crack has been there for about 15 yrs. I doesn't bother me, doesn't inhibit use of the window. Heavens forbid if the "window crack police" had seen that - we would have been evicted from our home!
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