GVWR ..... 16500
GAWR Fr .. 5000
GAVR Dr .. 9840
GAVR Tag . 5560
From this I calculate that the total GAVRs would be 20400.
Why would the GVWR be so much less?
Ray & Mollie Thomson
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1986 Holiday Rambler Imperial - Chevy 454 V-8; TH400
2002 Lincoln Continental - 4.6L V-8
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Total axle capacity is often more than GVWR. GVWR is limited by the most limiting factor-- may be brakes, engine, transmission, tires and in some cases the axles.
Because the MH manufacturers engineers determined that the max SAFE GVWR is 16,500#'s
Nothing you do (bigger tires, air bags, etc.) will change that rating unless you can get the MH factory (not the chassis manufacturer) to modify the sticker. To do that they have to recertify the MH.
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Thge frame, brakes, suspension all combined are rated at the 16,500 GVWR. The front axle and drive axle were not enough to get to 16,500 so the tag was added to give a little extra support. My W-22 has axles that total 23,000# with a total GVWR of 22,000#. You should also check the tow rating of your MH to see what you can tow. It will probably be around 3500#. Watch how you load your MH. One good way to save weight is to limit the amount of water you take. Water weighs 8# per gallon so 50 gal. not taken gives you another 400# of carrying capacity. Enjoy your MH.
gvwr is the total carring capacity
the fr is what the front axle can carry
the dr is what the rear can carry
The gvwr is the weakest link, tires or axles. Look on tires and it will show the max. weight as a single or as a dual. Add them all up and you have your gvwr.
toolttime wrote: gvwr is the total carring capacity
the fr is what the front axle can carry
the dr is what the rear can carry
The gvwr is the weakest link, tires or axles. Look on tires and it will show the max. weight as a single or as a dual. Add them all up and you have your gvwr.
If that were the case I would have 7050 for the front axle, 10800 for the drive and 5600 for the tag; a total of 23900.
"If that were the case I would have 7050 for the front axle, 10800 for the drive and 5600 for the tag; a total of 23900".
Axles are usually rated by what the tires can carry like in your case it is a Gross Vehicle Weight Rating of 23900.........sometimes you can find a GCVWR (Gross Combined Vehicle Weight Rating) which means that what ever you are towing has to be up to or under that rate. Generally you can tow up to 3500 lbs and this is because the class of hitch that they throw on these motorhomes these days are only rated for 350#s of tongue weight (10% of the towing weight) and 3500#s of towing weight. I had my hitch beefed up and now I can tow up to 7500#s and a 750# tongue weight. I am still under the combined weight rating for my motorhome with 7500#s attached to it (just)......Hope this helps
M
92 Bounder Diesel pusher 35J
Harrison Hot Springs BC
Canada
GVWR ..... 16500
GAWR Fr .. 5000
GAVR Dr .. 9840
GAVR Tag . 5560
From this I calculate that the total GAVRs would be 20400.
Why would the GVWR be so much less?
16,500 is the maximum weight for the MH---regardless of what the individual axles are rated at.
The fact that the combined total of the individual axles is 20,400 means that you have some flexibility as to where you put the 16,500 lbs. However, if you put 5000 lbs on the front axle, you can only put a total of 11,500 on the rear and tag axles. The 16,500 limit is due to limitations of the transmission, brakes, cooling system, or something.
Mark
2000 Itasca Suncruiser 35U on a Ford chassis
2003 Ford Explorer toad with US Gear brakes,
ReadyBrute tow bar, and Demco base plate.
Most common limiting factor is brakes. Even though the axle can take the weight, the brakes have a very specific spec that they are capable of stopping. Seriously having the individual axle ratings exceeding the total rating is a very good thing in a motorhome. The reason is that most motorhomes have very poor weight distribution, so it is possible to exceed the rating on one wheel, with plenty left over for the rest of the axle. Over spec'ing the axle builds in a safety margin for poor weight distribution.
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