derwud wrote: I like the bicycle or Snowboard helmet idea... With the cage and 4/5 point belts, I'm more worried about banging our heads on the cage then about a high speed impact like you would get on a Quad or M/C.
Might just be a good idea, keep your noggin from bouncing off some steel tubing, and much more comfortable and cooler.
You guys keep talking about banging heads or hitting the steel tubing??? If your strapped in tight I cant see this happeneing??? If I were to roll I know I wouldnt hit the cage and my kids wouldnt either. I would be hanging upside down just like the ones Ive seen roll that were wearing 5 point Harneses.
Again I'm not knocking the helmets just trying to understand a little better on what you guys are saying. Like I said Ive seen plenty of roll-overs and the only one time I have seen a head injury, The driver was only wearing a lap belt. That Rhino was a 4 seater with 2 adults and 2 bigger kids in the back - it rolled end over end twice then once on the side. The 3 passengers were all strapped in and had no injuries. The driver crushed his foot and hit his head on the cage.
Jeff, that's why I'm talking about the snowboard/bicycle helmet and not a full Motorcycle helmet. A just in case deal, not a must have thing!
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We have a Rhino and ride with a toddler.
I am shocked at the number of "parents" who let their kids ride solo on large quads etc, and also without safety equipment in their UTV's.
Its not about how good your driving skills are its about unknown road conditions and the other riders who cross your path......AS for the roll over/tip over, what about that hard dirt/rock that you or your kids might hit their hear on.....a massive head injury is usually not compatible with life not to mention the c-spine injury(instant death,a quad or a paraplegic)
We have added doors, 5 point belts, a britax carseat for the kid with a xxs snowbord helmet. No safety gear no ride...........no exceptions..........
MadMav wrote: I am highly capable of keeping myself safe in and on pretty much any vehicle. I do worry about those without the skills..ie...wife, kids.
Mav
Classic statement. Everyone, at least every guy, thinks they're highly capable. It's always the other clowns who don't know what they're doing. I guess we could let Darwin decide...
Just a thought we have a 4 seat prerunner that I have put many miles on. Always drive safe .Guess what this weekend I put it on its side .We were out for a slow casual day . No one got hurt .We always were helmets and I knew I should have window nets but did not ,now I will get them . Accidents can happen at any time and it is better to be preparred than not.
MadMav wrote: I am highly capable of keeping myself safe in and on pretty much any vehicle.
I wonder if you were able to ask the people that did NOT keep themselves safe if they actually thought, when they took off on their ride, that they were going to fall into harms way?
I bet they also thought they were capable of keeping themselves safe...
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MadMav wrote: I am highly capable of keeping myself safe in and on pretty much any vehicle. I do worry about those without the skills..ie...wife, kids.
Mav
Classic statement. Everyone, at least every guy, thinks they're highly capable. It's always the other clowns who don't know what they're doing. I guess we could let Darwin decide...
Classic statement from those who don't think they are capable or whom can't rely on their own brain to control their actions. Darwin has decided to let me live this far, so it must be the other clowns. Idiots continue to die, and I keep on living. I must be doing something right.
Mav
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MadMav wrote: I am highly capable of keeping myself safe in and on pretty much any vehicle.
I wonder if you were able to ask the people that did NOT keep themselves safe if they actually thought, when they took off on their ride, that they were going to fall into harms way?
I bet they also thought they were capable of keeping themselves safe...
Not attacking anyone here, but I once read in a USA Today article regarding driving on streets that 90% of drivers think they drive better than average (if you don't get the humor, think about what average means) ... guess that kind of says it all about persons believing they are safer than they imagine.
My wife and I were out at Searles for Thanksgiving. We have 3 boys and are considering a Rhino. We were fortunate to be able to borrow a Rhino and an Artic Cat Prowler for testing. We put helmets on the kids and almost didn't ourselves. But the rollbar on the Prowler convinced us to put them on (rectangular with sharp corners). After, we also considered the errant dirtbiker or quad rider that may end up head on with us on some of those trails. A full face helmet might save your life from someone else's stupidity. I would also consider some sort of neck roll/pad to keep our necks from breaking from excessive motion in the case of a rollover. Might look stupid and uncool, but I will take the jeers knowing we are doing our best to be safe.
On our way out on Saturday, we saw 3 girls in a 2 seat Rhino. None were wearing helmets. The third girl was standing in the dump bed with one hand on the rollbar and the other using a 2-way radio. Wow...that was cool.
There is only so much one can do to ensure their own safety. To assume control in an off-road environment with other riders is a joke.
MadMav wrote: If there is a role cage and seat belts, I see limited need for helmets. All others should wear them.
Mav
SO when you head gets smashed in from hitting the roll cage, your life or quality of life will be limited as well.
Not trying to pick a fight, but by that argument, one should wear a nomex racing suit, d-cell, 5 points, pad all cage tubing surrounding occupants with rated padding, and net or tin off all access...
This is an inherently dangerous sport. One needs to be responsible for themselves, and act upon appropriately for the situation you are likely to face.
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