Anyone tow a fifth wheel with the newer tundra 2007-2008 with 6.5' box, and 5.7 engine. The research that I have done shows this could pull the fifth wheel I currently have that I pull with my older chevy with 6.5' box.
wdgold wrote: Anyone tow a fifth wheel with the newer tundra 2007-2008 with 6.5' box, and 5.7 engine. The research that I have done shows this could pull the fifth wheel I currently have that I pull with my older chevy with 6.5' box.
Your best bet would be to go to the towing forum at: www.tundrasolutions.com. A lot of folks are towing fifth wheels with the Tundra 6.5 bed and you’ll find a wealth of information on that forum.
One of the online resources for the Tundra says that maximum PIN weight for a 5er on the Tundra can only be approximately 1000#. That's not very much for a decent sized 5er.
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Their are a couple of guys and gals on this site I am certain will respond to you positively re. their experience. I myself almost traded my own TT in for a 24' 5ver this fall as the foor plan was perfect and the shorter length excited me. But I love my bed for other goodies so I did not go forward. Jay2003 is off just a bit re. Pin Weight. as you can handle a bit more. Remembe the Tundra is not a HD like the Domestics can be. But yopu can do it.
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amxpress wrote: Here are some people I would qualify as experts when it comes to towing an RV. They actually tested a Tundra with a fiver.
Click here: http://www.trailerlife.com/output.cfm?ID=1302391
Personally I don't trust Trailer Life and the matchups they do. They very often run extremely close to the ratings so that they can get a good story and photo.
Here's a good example from the article you linked to
"... Our total lashup weighed 13,200 pounds, so we still had 2,800 pounds of overall payload capacity before exceeding the truck's 16,000-pound gross combination weight rating (gcwr)."
The rated payload for a CrewMax 4x2 is 1605# with the tow package according to the Toyota web site. They stated that their trailer is 6600# WET. As recomendations go.. 25% of the loaded trailer weight should be on the pin. So 25% of their loaded 6600# weight is 1650# which is already over the payload limits specified. So yes they weren't at the GCWR however they had no more payload to actually use in the truck because they were at or were close to going over the GVWR of the truck. They definitely shouldn't plan to carry any gear or people in the truck not to mention adding the weight of the hitch itself.
I would imagine that they didn't truly pack anything in the trailer when they tested it either. The 2008 model (although theirs was a 2007) has a published dry weight of 6280 and a published dry hitch weight of 1000#. I would imagine there wouldn't be all that much difference between a 2007 and a 2008 model. The GVWR of that trailer is 10,000# so pin weight could go way up depending on loading.
Does Trailer Life even have a clue................?
"Our total lashup weighed 13,200 pounds, so we still had 2,800 pounds of overall payload capacity before exceeding the truck's 16,000-pound gross combination weight rating (gcwr)."
"Payload" capacity has nothing to do with GCWR! And there was no mention of the load on the truck, not even a hint of what was left of the true payload after they installed a 300# hitch!!
And what on Earth does "Wet but empty" mean?
IMHO it's articles like this that lead people into making uninformed, perhaps unwise and potentially unsafe decisions!
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Isn't it true that Toyota specifically says not to, and
The Tundra has a very low payload number (and NOT TrailerLife's payload definition, which is wrong), and
You'd likely be overloaded on RAWR, GVWR, or both hooking anything but a very small 5er behind a Tundra.
Trailerlife's set up was technically overloading the truck. It's right there in the article.
All that said, I'm sure the wheels wouldn't fall off if you did it, but there has to be some reason Toyota recommends against it -- and it's likely the limited payload.
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I happen to have that magazine, and went and dug it up.
The Tundra is a 2wd, 5.7L V8, with tow package, with a 10,600# tow rating.
The RV was a 2660RKS Tango with one very small slideout.
The 5er weighed in at 6660# wet but empty (meaning full freshwater, LP gas, water heater, no cargo). The hitch weight was 1100#. The tested Tundra's payload is 1340# (6900# GVWR and 5560# curb weight).
After hitching that combo up, you'd have a total of 240# payload left before exceeding GVWR of the truck (no driver yet).
So, as soon as I got in the driver's seat of that truck (250 - 260#), it'd be overloaded. Now add the kids, the BBQ, the generator, some firewood, a couple of bikes, some (any) cargo in the empty 5er, and that kind of stuff like anyone would - and it just gets further overloaded.
Trailerlife should be ashamed putting such a combo together and not even mentioning they were overloaded in the article.
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