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jsfromsd

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I know this topic has been covered in numerous prior posts but since I just went thru the process today I thought I would share my experiences.

If you tow a 5th wheel trailer between 10,000 lbs to 15,000 lbs GVWR you are required to have a restriction 41 endorsement added to your class C license.

I started my process at the DMV arguing with the nice lady that helped me and also her supervisor. Foe some reason they both were telling me that I needed a non-commercial class A. I explained to them that the non-commercial class A is for a 5th wheel weighing over 15,000 lbs GVWR and that the GVWR of my trailer exactly 15,000 lbs GVWR according to the sticker inside my trailer. Finally, they spoke to someone that knew what I was talking about.

The process from here on out was as simple as it gets. There is no fee to pay, study the "Recreational Vehicles and Trailers Handbook" (available online), get your picture taken and finally take a fairly simple (I missed 2) 20 question test.

That's it; I am now finally legal to tow my trailer.

Hope this helps,

Jesse

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Congratulations!! Sounds easy enough and it feels so good to be legal.

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Posted: 02/25/09 07:35pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I'm sure glad I live in Oklahoma. Class C all the way and drive what you want.


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Wow !!! you were one of the lucky ones that succeeded in getting one the same day.


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It's crazy that it's required, but I agree, it should be. It takes skill to handle a 40' 15K fiver or any trailer of any real size. Not saying it will prevent any accidents, but might help someone learn something they didn't know.

Even though not required, I have my class A.

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Posted: 02/25/09 10:22pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

jsfromsd wrote:

If you tow a 5th wheel trailer between 10,000 lbs to 15,000 lbs GVWR you are required to have a restriction 41 endorsement added to your class C license.


When did this law come in to place? I thought you were safe as long as you were under 15,000lbs GVWR. What is a restriction 41 endorsement?

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Hey Jesse, I went in yesterday to renew my license and asked for a restriction 41 and got the same treatment. Blank stares and saying I didnt know what I was talking about. One of the girls at another window overheard my arguing and said she heard of it but does not know how to process it. They made a couple phone calls to somewhere and an hour later I left with the endorsement. Gotta love the DMV. Should have never let my commercial class A expire!

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jsfromsd wrote:

I know this topic has been covered in numerous prior posts but since I just went thru the process today I thought I would share my experiences.

If you tow a 5th wheel trailer between 10,000 lbs to 15,000 lbs GVWR you are required to have a restriction 41 endorsement added to your class C license.

I started my process at the DMV arguing with the nice lady that helped me and also her supervisor. Foe some reason they both were telling me that I needed a non-commercial class A. I explained to them that the non-commercial class A is for a 5th wheel weighing over 15,000 lbs GVWR and that the GVWR of my trailer exactly 15,000 lbs GVWR according to the sticker inside my trailer. Finally, they spoke to someone that knew what I was talking about.

The process from here on out was as simple as it gets. There is no fee to pay, study the "Recreational Vehicles and Trailers Handbook" (available online), get your picture taken and finally take a fairly simple (I missed 2) 20 question test.

That's it; I am now finally legal to tow my trailer.

Hope this helps,

Jesse


Funny, I had the exact same experience as you.


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Posted: 02/26/09 07:23pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

4rvsearcher wrote:

jsfromsd wrote:

If you tow a 5th wheel trailer between 10,000 lbs to 15,000 lbs GVWR you are required to have a restriction 41 endorsement added to your class C license.


When did this law come in to place? I thought you were safe as long as you were under 15,000lbs GVWR. What is a restriction 41 endorsement?


4rvsearcher,

I really don't know when this came into law. I only knew of it from reading this forum or I would not have had a clue it was required. The endorsement allows out to pull a 5th wheel trailer between 10,000 and 15,000 GVWR with a class C. Over 15,000 GVWR you need your non-comercial class A.

Jesse

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Posted: 02/27/09 03:06pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Similar at the Covina DMV but the supervisor knew where to look, still took a while. At first they said I had to take ALL my tests again, then they reconsidered. Then they wanted to charge me, then I pointed at the place in the handbook where it said it was free. Failed the first test but got back in line and took it again and passed. I've shared my copies of the test with others here so if anyone else wants them I have two copies I can email to you.


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