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vptinker

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I am really confused now. I have a F350 Super Duty Dually, that I plan on hauling a 15000 lb, 5th wheel trailer from Florida to Ontario.

I have a G drivers license, am I good to go ??

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I believe you would only have issues if the combined weight of truck and trailer is over 26,001 lbs.


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See sig. The 5er, loaded will weigh around 14,500-15,000#, and the truck is a dually. Just regular license, unless, like stated above, your GCWR is over 26,001#. If you towing commercially, you would also need a different license, but if your just towing your 5er to "go camping", again, just regular license.


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Contrary to popular belief, you DO NOT need a CDL to tow your own equipment. Even if it is over 26,000#, if it is not licensed as a commercial vehicle or for hire you do not need a CDL.

There should be a moderator willing to post this somewhere - permanently.

Again........NO CDL for private vehicles.


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In Ontario you will need a restricted class A license for pulling a trlr with a gross weight of over 10000 pounds.
Each state or province you travel through, has different rules and regs and you have to be compliant in each area your traveling through.


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loveshack1 wrote:

Contrary to popular belief, you DO NOT need a CDL to tow your own equipment. Even if it is over 26,000#, if it is not licensed as a commercial vehicle or for hire you do not need a CDL.

There should be a moderator willing to post this somewhere - permanently.

Again........NO CDL for private vehicles.


Yes, CDL means "Commercial Drivers License".

Some states (like California) do require you to have a "non commercial class A license" if your trailer weighs over a set minimum weight. Basically if your legal to tow where your drivers license is issued and your a RV "private coach, not for hire recreational vehicle" roll on and enjoy the trip.


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loveshack1 wrote:


Again........NO CDL for private vehicles.


Totally incorrect. CA requires their residents to have a class A CDL to tow a cargo trailer over 10,000 GVWR, all combinations over 26,000 and also to tow recreation doubles. From this CA website

A commercial vehicle is a motor vehicle or combination used for hire to transport passengers or property or which:

Has a gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of 26,001 pounds or more
Is designed, used, or maintained for carrying more than 10 passengers, including the driver
Tows a vehicle or trailer, which has a GVWR of 10,001 pounds or more
Transports hazardous materials, which requires placards
Tows any combination of two trailers or vehicle and trailer

Notice the "or which"? As you can see they classify some private vehicles as commercial that other states do not. The requirements for their non-commercial license is on the same page.


Some states do not have a non-commercial class A license and require a CDL for GCWRs over 26,000. This subjuct has been covered a thousand times on this forum.


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This was taken from the Ministry of Transportation of Ontario website:

¨A truck towing a trailer and/or a motor vehicle:
Class "G" if the truck is registered for and the combination weighs 11,000 kgs (24,250 lbs) or less,
Class "D" if the truck is registered for or the combination weighs more than 11,000 kgs, or
Class "A" if the weight of the towed vehicle or the combined weight of the towed vehicles exceeds 4,600 kgs (10,141 lbs).¨

This is, of course, if you are an Ontario resident with an Ontario driver's licence. If you are not an Ontario resident, the same website says:

Ontario permits an out-of-province driver to drive a vehicle or combination of vehicles in Ontario if the driver is properly licensed to drive the vehicle or combination in their Province or State of residency and the licence is valid.

* This post was edited 03/11/09 10:27am by gorjo01 *





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vptinker wrote:

I am really confused now. I have a F350 Super Duty Dually, that I plan on hauling a 15000 lb, 5th wheel trailer from Florida to Ontario.

I have a G drivers license, am I good to go ??


What does YOUR state of residence require for a license to drive YOUR rig? The laws of YOUR state are the laws you must abide by.
Most states have entered into Reciprocity Agreements, which means that each state will accept the driver's license, registration, and insurance requirements of the other states for people passing through. I have heard that some states haven't approved these agreements, but I don't know which ones, or even if that is a fact.
If the G license is what is required in your home state for your rig, you should be OK almost anywhere in the United States, and quite possibly Canada.
Have a safe trip.


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When I went into Canada a couple of years ago I was over 26K and had no problem with the police. I went through customs and no one said anything to me expect have a great visit in Canada. I think you will be fine just follow the posted speed limits or stay under and you will have no problem. Have a great time on your trip.


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