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American Made

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The 2009 Titan 4x4 CrewCab is rated to 9,000 lbs w/ tow pkg. Payload with the 5.5' bed is 1,914, and with the 7' is 1,582. It's hard to put a 5th wheel hitch in a 5.5' bed, although I've seen it done. The long bed is your best bet, if you want to tow a 5er with your Titan.

Anyway, I appreciate the replies, again, even those that basically assure me I'm due for the Darwin Award, and I will maintain reasonable speed, maintain my truck properly, get the rear bearings looked at, monitor rear hub and axle temp as appropriate on long tows, and otherwise continue to do as I've been doing.

If anyone is going to be at the Oshkosh Air Show in July, post, maybe we can have a beer together and trade stories. And if you're there, have a look at the trucks and trailers there: I can assure you that I am by far on the closer to rating side than many! For that matter, look around at the campground next time you're there. I'm not the first person to overload, and I doubt I'll be the last.

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In reality, your 'payload' is not what the manufacture has listed... It's what you have already stated and when you take the weight of your rig with you in it at #6270 and your truck only has a GVWR of #7100 then your currently available 'payload' is #830.. If you removed everything you have put in the truck since it rolled off of the assembly line, you might get to that brochure listed rating....

But, as you have stated and feel confident about is that your truck is doing what you want it to do, so what's the big deal?? You know your truck and we don't... Just like I know my truck and you don't...

This will get locked down soon, since it's become as all the rest of them.... But, it's a good entertaining subject all the same!

Cheers and enjoy it! Don't try to justify it!

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2003 Prowler Lynx 722F (GVWR #5000)

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It has been fun and I learned a lot but not from the wp. I did learn from everyone else that had actual figures and proof positive.





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I will leave with this. There are folks who tow and KNOW their set up is safe and within the specs, and their are folks who tow and THINK their set up is safe. Everyone has to to decide which way they will go.


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It would be worthwhile to take a 2009 F-250 and a 5.7 Tundra, hook the same 10 K trailer up behind them both, get them up to 60 MPH, hit the brakes, and see which one stops earlier. We already know which truck would win the acceleration test, so no point redoing that. Or maybe set up a slalom course, cones to go through? See how tightly the cones can be spaced and still go through at, say 50 MPH. Anyone up for it? We'd have to put some money on it, to make it worthwhile. Sure, something might break, but that would be a fun test down at the old drag strip

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American Made wrote:

It would be worthwhile to take a 2009 F-250 and a 5.7 Tundra, hook the same 10 K trailer up behind them both, get them up to 60 MPH, hit the brakes, and see which one stops earlier. We already know which truck would win the acceleration test, so no point redoing that. Or maybe set up a slalom course, cones to go through? See how tightly the cones can be spaced and still go through at, say 50 MPH. Anyone up for it? We'd have to put some money on it, to make it worthwhile. Sure, something might break, but that would be a fun test down at the old drag strip


You bought a really cool truck....a really, really cool truck. Pretty much the best, coolest 1/2 ton out there. It can out tow, out accelerate, out brake and out haul any truck in its class.... It sounds like you love it and that's all that matters... So, why are you constantly on here looking for our blessing?

After 10 threads and hundreds of posts... do you actually have a question we can answer for you?

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Anyone wanna buy a truck?

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"After 10 thread and hundreds of posts... "

I've actually learned a lot about towing, about my truck's capacities, about traffic laws and about where published numbers like GVWR and GCVWR come from. And I'm no newbie to towing.

Like anything, I like knowing what the numbers mean and where they come from. I'm not terribly interested in blindly following published numbers if I don't know what they mean. I don't do that flying a plane, so why would I on the road?

No matter who agrees with American Made, he's done more due diligence on his rig than most people towing on the road. Would we have had the same (and often thoughtful) posts if he was doing the same thing with a dodge or chevy? I doubt it. And I suspect he'll be the first to post any long term issues he may have.

And, for the record, I have a Tundra 5.7, and a 30 foot TT toy hauler. I'm under, but close, to all the published limits by calculation and on a scale. And I bet a lot of newbies reading these posts will be more likely to hit a scale after reading them...

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American Made wrote:

It would be worthwhile to take a 2009 F-250 and a 5.7 Tundra, hook the same 10 K trailer up behind them both, get them up to 60 MPH, hit the brakes, and see which one stops earlier. We already know which truck would win the acceleration test, so no point redoing that. Or maybe set up a slalom course, cones to go through? See how tightly the cones can be spaced and still go through at, say 50 MPH. Anyone up for it? We'd have to put some money on it, to make it worthwhile. Sure, something might break, but that would be a fun test down at the old drag strip



I thought you play it safe? Or do just like pulling our chain? Some of that information was posted in another post. The Tundra swayed all over the road ... like a fish out of water. Worse than any of the Big Three.

Why don't you load up a backpack with a 75 lbs of weight and strap it to your back. Go run around the block every night and then tell us it won't have any affect on your body over time. Your simply daring something to happen. Wait long enough ... it will.

Trying to impress us with your arrogance isn't earning you any points. Do the right thing and get a truck rated to pull what your throwing at it. Anything less is simply a gamble.

I've had 6 Big Three trucks. Never have I experienced the problems you claim to have had. You got a lemon ... it happens to all brands.

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freeheel wrote:

"After 10 thread and hundreds of posts... "

I've actually learned a lot about towing, about my truck's capacities, about traffic laws and about where published numbers like GVWR and GCVWR come from. And I'm no newbie to towing.

Like anything, I like knowing what the numbers mean and where they come from. I'm not terribly interested in blindly following published numbers if I don't know what they mean. I don't do that flying a plane, so why would I on the road?

No matter who agrees with American Made, he's done more due diligence on his rig than most people towing on the road. Would we have had the same (and often thoughtful) posts if he was doing the same thing with a dodge or chevy? I doubt it. And I suspect he'll be the first to post any long term issues he may have.

And, for the record, I have a Tundra 5.7, and a 30 foot TT toy hauler. I'm under, but close, to all the published limits by calculation and on a scale. And I bet a lot of newbies reading these posts will be more likely to hit a scale after reading them...


You should check out the stickys at the top of the page. There's loads of towing info for you to educate yourself with..... and for the record, a fool is a fool in a Toyota, Ford, Dodge or Chevy.

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