cwit -- when anyone posts the second time on the same page, the signature information is stripped away. This is done to save bandwidth and speed up page downloads, since most people have pics in their signatures.
If you look up the thread on that page, you will see another post from Keith with his sig.
Ken
2007 FORD F-350 4WD SC Longbed, 6.0L Powerstroke, Reese Signature Series 18K hitch.
2007 Keystone Montana Mountaineer 342PHT
I think it was more heis is towing at or above his limit and I haven't seen his weights. It seem it's all right for Keith to tow with a 1/2 ton but nobody else can. Those of us that use airbags to help our trucks are all wroung but it's ok to overload or be close as long as you keep it factory.
cwit - Look at my signature block. Here I will put it in print for you. My Titan has a tow rating of 9400lbs. Payload is around 1400lbs. TT max GVWR is 8,000lbs, dry tongue is 650lbs. I never tow with full tanks and unless it is a weekend trip, we go shopping for most of our food upon arrival. Do the math. Take 12-15% of my max TT GVWR, which I never load to and I am still within my payload. All that rides in my truck is me, my wife, my 4yo son, my golden retriever, my brittany spaniel, coleman rollaway gas grill in the bed and maybe 2 mountain bikes. Truck sits dead level measured at the wheel wells and bed, WD bars dead level on 6 links with no add ons to the suspension. Am I possibly over weight? Maybe on occasion, but who isn't sometimes a couple hundred pounds over weight? Am I like the OP and 1,000lbs over my payload just hooking my empty truck up to my TT alone? Hell no!! Big difference. FWIW I posted this info somewhere already in this thread or possibly the OP's first thread.
As usual, I find myself in the middle of this argument. I don't think that I need to know what route the OP is taking so I can drive hunderds of miles out of the way to avoid him killing me and my family. I also don't find my manhood threatened becasue i drive a GMC and he has a Toyota. They do indeed seem to have a great marketing campaign going, and as far as I know they are a good strong truck.
I am a big guy, and I know that I can go up ladders that are rated under my body weight without breaking them. I know there is a safety margin played into towing weights, and component numbers.
Having said all that, I just couldn't justify investing (what is to me) a ton of money on a nice truck just to push the limits, and in my mind abuse the individual components beyond the posted weight limits by the manufacturer. To me lighting my money on fire would be better - at least it would keep me warm.
I don't wish the OP anything other than safe travels and a effortless hundred thousand miles, but I can't believe those ratings aren't there for a reason. We all have different tolerances for risk. Mine is pretty low.
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Dirk
Myself (36), my Wife(33, "The Boy"(4), & "The Girl"(negative 4 months and counting down!)
06 GMC Sierra 1500 Crew Cab, 5.3L V8, 3.42rear
05 30QBSS Trail-Cruiser, Prodigy BC, Reese Dual Cam W/D
Well Keith we all carry a little more then we should and I'm not talking AM I have nothing to do with him. The differance between you and me is You use a wdh to pick your truck and I have to use air. Two years a go I had a tt like yours only I had my bath across the back instead of a bunkhouse. Mostly I'm on this post for a little Info, fun and yes a little boredom. I do hope we have the right to pick now and then, got to keep the post active.
cwit wrote: Well Keith we all carry a little more then we should and I'm not talking AM I have nothing to do with him. The differance between you and me is You use a wdh to pick your truck and I have to use air. Two years a go I had a tt like yours only I had my bath across the back instead of a bunkhouse. Mostly I'm on this post for a little Info, fun and yes a little boredom. I do hope we have the right to pick now and then, got to keep the post active.
Wrong again about my WD being used in lieu of air. The WD hitch is not to lift the truck. It is to distribute weight equally to all axles. In fact almost all 1/2 tons will flat out state that when towing a trailer weighing over 5,000lbs or having 500lbs plus tongue weight, WD should be used. AIr bags do not transfer any weight off the rear axle, they just lift the chassis higher off it to look level.
I didn't read all the posts ,but what is the fuel economy of these tow vehicles when at or over manufactures specifications?
08 Dodge Mega Cab DRW,6spd auto, Exhaust break, 8'bed conversion (Best mistake I've made)
33' Teton Home Experience 3 slides, its not a trailer its a home
5500 watt generator
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