I would guess that the hybrid spaces are something the store does and in that case, police won't ticket you since it isn't local law.
There is a new Fresh and Easy being built in my town and you can bet I will be using the hybrid and the children spaces with my handicap vehicle used to transport our daughter.
And yeah, I have an issue with the handicapped being treated as second rate citizens especially when it comes to tree-hugging hybrid drivers and parents that have no control over their brats running around parking lots.
"Nobody knows how we got to the top of the hill, but since we're on our way down, we might as well enjoy the ride". ("The Secret Of Life", James Taylor).
Here in Canada they have guidelines but there seems little checking to make sure that they are correct and store will not ticket anyone as it will create bad feelings.
Here the store has no control over whether we write a ticket or not. We patrol independently and write as we see fit, even those with plates or plackards can get a ticket if parked in the access zone or too far into it (more than one foot into the access zone).
The US law is that they must the on the most practicable route so they build a raised sidewalk and put a ramp in at the end of the store. It's NOT the closest but it does meet the letter (but not the spirit) of the law. Also, there is no enforcement of the space requirements or removed signs other than to sue for personal damages. However, we write a citation even if the signs are removed if the space has painted markings or signed but no paint. The judge may let them off, but at least they were required to show up in court and argue their case!
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I like the spaces for Parents with Children, as long as they don't take way the Disability spaces. As a mom, I like to park near the door so I don't have to walk very far with a child. You can say all you want about keeping your children under control, but sometimes despite your best efforts kids can get away from you.
We have a Disability license plate now for my youngest son who is very mentally handicapped. He can't help himself at all. Getting him out of the car requires extra room to swing the door wide. It's hard to do that in a lot of spaces without risking knocking the paint of someone's car.
"Those who dwell...among the beauties and mysteries of the earth are never alone or weary of life."--Rachel Carson, environmentalist, 1956
Quote: 5) Where to Park
With your disabled placard (temporary or permanent) or your permanent disabled license plates, you may park :
In any parking space with the International Symbol of Access. (wheelchair symbol)
Next to a blue curb authorized for handicap parking.
Next to a green curb (green curbs indicate limited-time parking) for as long as you like.
In a metered parking space on the street at no charge.
In an area that indicates it requires a resident or merchant permit.Check public arenas, like sports stadiums, to see if they offer free disabled parking. Many do.
Do not park in the areas marked with white hatch marks (near the disabled parking spots), any red (no stopping), yellow (commercial vehicles only), or white (passenger loading and unloading only) curbs.
i don't think it would be illegal for us to park in the parents and childrens areas, not sure about the hybrid parking places, i think it would be legal too.
As far as I am aware the only spots covered by law are the H/C spaces
If you park in a "Handicap" or "Disabled" space without displaying a placard or sticker you will get a ticket if you are caught by the parking patrol, it has nothing to do with the business
Any thing else such as spaces reserved for "Expectant Mothers" "Parents with Small Children" "Families" "RVs Only" etc. is a "courtesy" space designated by the store you want to park there to make a point go ahead, I doubt that anyone will notice, me I usually park at the back of the lot out of the way, I need the exercise
Chock Full o' Nuts wrote: I like the spaces for Parents with Children, as long as they don't take way the Disability spaces. As a mom, I like to park near the door so I don't have to walk very far with a child. You can say all you want about keeping your children under control, but sometimes despite your best efforts kids can get away from you.
We have a Disability license plate now for my youngest son who is very mentally handicapped. He can't help himself at all. Getting him out of the car requires extra room to swing the door wide. It's hard to do that in a lot of spaces without risking knocking the paint of someone's car.
Here in WA state the law won't let anyone under 18 own a car and the handicapped plates are issued only to the car's owner. So no one under 18 should be able to get the HC plates, but I've seen it done.
Chock Full o' Nuts wrote: I like the spaces for Parents with Children, as long as they don't take way the Disability spaces. As a mom, I like to park near the door so I don't have to walk very far with a child. You can say all you want about keeping your children under control, but sometimes despite your best efforts kids can get away from you.
We have a Disability license plate now for my youngest son who is very mentally handicapped. He can't help himself at all. Getting him out of the car requires extra room to swing the door wide. It's hard to do that in a lot of spaces without risking knocking the paint of someone's car.
Here in WA state the law won't let anyone under 18 own a car and the handicapped plates are issued only to the car's owner. So no one under 18 should be able to get the HC plates, but I've seen it done.
We've had a disabled hangtag for years. We don't use the handicapped spaces unless Christian is with us and even then only if the walk would be too far.
Christian can walk but he's off balance and has no sense of danger. He is bigger than me and stronger than me. I always keep my hands on him when we go out, but my greatest fear is that he will break away suddenly and get hit by a car.
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