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Posted: 06/25/09 12:55pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Lariat trucker wrote:

Why did the annual inspection requirement bother you? You have basically a 90 window to get it done and sometimes a second set of eyes is a good thing.

Because every once in a while, you'll run into an inspection station that will find "something" wrong whether it is or not. Then you don't pass the inspection until you "fix" whatever wasn't wrong in the first place or go find another inspector.

I don't know how common inspection stations are that can handle a 40 foot fiver on the spur of the moment either. The truck probably wouldn't be an issue.

Otherwise, for my particular situation, both states have about the same attraction for full-timers needing a home of record. Your mileage may vary.


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DarkRubiTJ wrote:

There is much more to the package than just vehicle license fees, inspections, and insurance.


Well said and let me relate a story along those lines.

We have a close friend that was laid off from her nursing job one week ago in Northern California. These friends have planned to move to Oregon in retirement. They bought an Oregon home a couple of years ago and started transferring vehicle titles and registration to Oregon. They started opening bank accounts and got new DLs as the California DL were due to expire. Even started moving some household goods.

So now back to last week. As I said the nurse was laid off. So down to the unemployment office she will go to file for benefits. So now that my friend has an Oregon DL, no California residency indentifiers like utilty bills, or rental agreements, etc. how does she qualify for California unemployment benefits? Since the employer paid into the California Unemployment benefits fund, How would she qualify for Oregon unemployment benefits?

This is just one of several situations which could crop up if "you" are all over the road map in establishing residency. Our freinds never expected a lay off because nursing is an "in demand" occupational field.


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SGTJOE wrote:

WTTCS is right. CO recently went after several RV owners who had MT LLC's and supposedly was successful in fines, back taxes and registrations. Also, a few years ago the CA inspection station on the interstate out of Lake Havasu questioned me on my MH registration because of no front plate and my buddy behind me was asked for his registration. I know that Calif has requested all it's residents to report vehicles with out of State plates if it appears that they are living and working there. I have also heard that TX is looking at the MT LLC's also.


Very please to here about this. I thought these financial vehicles were nothing more than shames and tax avoidance scams in the first place. I hope the promoter fines and penalties but these promoters in the poor house. Of course that's after they get sued by everyone they con'd into buying into it.

It all "boils down too" and has always "boiled down too" economic substance. In laymans terms if it walks like a duck, floats like a duck, and speaks like a duck, its a duck, period.

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So now back to last week. As I said the nurse was laid off. So down to the unemployment office she will go to file for benefits. So now that my friend has an Oregon DL, no California residency identifiers like utility bills, or rental agreements, etc. how does she qualify for California unemployment benefits? Since the employer paid into the California Unemployment benefits fund, How would she qualify for Oregon unemployment benefits?


Just like I was paid in MA after moving there when I had been working in CT. You can qualify for Unemployment in another state, the state where you worked pays through the state where you live. You just have to prove that you are still looking for work. My reason for moving to MA at the time, was there was more work available there, in a larger city, than in the town in CT where Id lived.

They also can use identifiers they had when living in CA like their DL number there, utility companies etc. You just apply where you live, there might be a penalty or waiting time if they have not actively been looking for work for XX time.

Unemployment is not from the state, but from the Federal Govt, the Buildings usually say "United States Unemployment Office" on them somewhere, though some may be operated by the state they are in. At least they did in CT and MA when I was there.


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Back to the OPs questions
For me,I just got my SD vehicle lic. renewal notice.
Pick up...Dodge 2004 3500 GVWR 9900....Lic Fee...63.50
Fiver..04....GVWR 14,900 NuWa...Lic Fee..........112.50
Insurance...That would be a whole 'nuther story...To many variables.
I did save some over the CA rates,but not a lot.Big savings on the lic fee over the CA fee.


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We know some folks who really wish they had looked into the MT LLC deeper before they did it. A road side check in Texas got them in hot water over a drivers license with a Texas address and a Motorhome registration with a Montana address. I don't know the out come but I know they were requested to prove residency for their Texas driver's licenses. We looked at it but our attorney was totally against it, he said the tax liability risk could wipe us out.

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Lariat....we decided against the Montana thing years ago....for just that reason We were told...by the Montana atty....that doing so would immediately raise red flags, especially from CA (at that time).

We thanked him for his candor and became residents of SD in all ways, including trusts, lawyers, banking, etc.


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Texas may be cheaper, but we went with South Dakota because of the annual inspection requirements in Texas.

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Why did the annual inspection requirement bother you? You have basically a 90 window to get it done and sometimes a second set of eyes is a good thing.
After nine years of fulltime as a Texas resident, I have heard some really phony issues to say it is a bad choice, but this is up near the top. In fact, the Texas inspection sticker is valid by law for one year, or if out of state on the date of expiration, it is then valid until you return to the state. I have been out of state more often than not when mine expired and I just wait until I return and then go to the first inspection station that I come to, once I return to the state. You do not have to return to your country of vehicle registration.

I have gone as long as seven months beyond the sticker expiration of one of our vehicles. On one occasion I was stopped in a safety inspection on the road, with an expired sticker. I was given a ticket which required that I renew my sticker and then mail the ticket with a copy of the sticker receipt to the county where the ticket was issued, within ten days. That was all there was to the penalty.

As to inspection stations that can do a 40' RV, that isn't valid either since the inspection does not require the vehicle to ever be inside of a building. The inspection typically takes about 10 to 15 minutes and the cost is currently $14.50.


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Only 14.50 for inspection, what about emmissions?


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Actually it is a little more confusing than Kirk says. If you are an Escapees based in Livingston, he is right, however, IF you reside in a "smog restricted city" , then yes, you must pass smog inspections. If you do live in that type of area, you MUST get it inspected in that particular city. You cant just stop anywhere and get it, otherwise those living in those cities would go to a smog free city and get an inspection.
And yes in the smog cities, they WILL, most surely, try and stick it to you. So, stay in a smog free city. Such as Livingston.................


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