I had kids running thru mine the last time I was out... I did politely tell them NOT to go thru my space... Seems the "me generation" has no repect for others
I wonder if it is really "age specific"? It seems to me from watching my fellow man (and woman) that respect for private property has fallen by the wayside.
I know when I was young, it was common knowledge that trespassing would likely treat you to a dose of rock salt from a 10 gauge open bore shotgun, right in your tender gluteus maximus. We had a LOT of respect for the property rights of others!
Now, of course, such a thing would not be tolerated, and the shooter would be in big trouble.
To give examples, not long after we moved here, a bird hunter was seen walking along the ditch bank, on my side of the ditch. My property line is the middle of the ditch, but the ditch company has a permanent easement for ditch maintenance. The hunter obviously didn't care. I am certainly not going to tell a guy carrying a shotgun that he can't cross my land!
Then, some neighborhood kids were playing on the ditch bank on the other side of the property. Perhaps their parents saw me watching them very closely, because they haven't been back.
Then, of course, there is the all-to-common example of taking a short-cut through a store parking lot, to avoid a traffic light, as I noted before.
Sadly, it would seem that "private property rights" are an out-dated concept for many, and trespassing is the order of the day, and many people seem to think it is their right to do so.
Just another example of the deterioration of our society, I suppose.
Younger kids you can forgive the odd transgression, but, adults no way! a lot of these folks who I suspect are stating they 'allow' or "don't mind at all", etc., would be the first to scream if a couple of kids road their bicycles too close to their Lexus, anywhere it was parked, for fear of a scratch.
As stated before, I believe a lot of these "take a pill & chill out" posts are simply "chumming" to roil the waters. They all can't possibly be that obtuse to expect different attitudes to apply to "personal space" simply because we strap on an RV and move to the countryside. RV'ing does not require you (never did) to abdicate or sacrifice those social norms taught to you (perhaps not) by your elders but rather to observe them to a greater degree as; has been pointed out many times here by folks using the tightness of RV park quarters as an excuse for bad behaviour, those soscietal rules become even more important in the close confines of typical camping today.
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Then, of course, there is the all-to-common example of taking a short-cut through a store parking lot, to avoid a traffic light, as I noted before.
This is one of my pet peeves. We live in a small 2 traffic light town. And lots of the local morons still insist on cutting through parking lots to avoid a 30 second light. Just silly.
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mowermech wrote: I wonder if it is really "age specific"? It seems to me from watching my fellow man (and woman) that respect for private property has fallen by the wayside.
Answer, YES, it is age dependent. Very young children do not, normally, now yet HOW to walk through your site.... Ok, that was a joke.
Last night where I'm camped (4-July-2009) we had a park "Guest" who had a very impressive DJ set up on his site. good sound system, actually had decent music.... Which he seemed to feel everybody in the park wished to listen too. Yes, he had been drinking.
I had a nice chat with the park manager this morning, I ask him to thank the security officer who finally shut him down. Took them 3 hours cause.. well, this is a big park it is over a mile from the Security shack to where his site, and the speed limit is 5mph. (Which security is charged with enforcing) so they responded to complaints and he would turn it down a bit,,, When he saw security on the other side of the lake he'd turn it up LOUDER, they returned, same thing, again and again, finally they told him to stop, completly.
So he did,,, and then he loudly (via his system) told the park why "Due to interference from the park and security I've been forced to discontinue and you can just kiss my... (And I will end the quote here) )
Today... He is chatting with the park manager.. I don't think his anatomy part is being kissed... Kicked perhaps, but not kissed.
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I can honestly say that I've never had this problem. We camp at SPs and the only people who have stepped foot into our site are kids who came to play with my kids and their parents who came to check on them. We don't walk through other's sites and wouldn't unless invited as there is no reason to. We stay close to the bathouses and there is no where else we ever need to get to in a hurry. However it wouldn't bother me to have other's walk through mine.
It doesn't bother me to have neighbors walk through my yard at home either. I regularly walk through a small part of a neighbor's yard on my way to the bus stop during the school year. I never asked permission either, just assumed it was ok due to the nature of the neighborhood and I was correct.
Growing up we ran my grandmother's neighborhood. There was only 1 yard I was not permitted to enter. I found out years later it was the home of a child molester. The rest of the yards were ours to run through (and the owners were free to scold us and call our parents if we were up to no good). I think it's a matter of how we are raised that defines what's normal and what's rude.
Walking through someones campsite is really do different than walking though someones living room. If you didi not rent the site, you have no business in it. Get some exercise by walking around rather than cutting through.
If you have a health problem, politely speak to the site occupant and ask if it is OK to shorten your trip through anothers campsite.
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BruceStarkey wrote: Younger kids you can forgive the odd transgression, but, adults no way! a lot of these folks who I suspect are stating they 'allow' or "don't mind at all", etc., would be the first to scream if a couple of kids road their bicycles too close to their Lexus, anywhere it was parked, for fear of a scratch.
As stated before, I believe a lot of these "take a pill & chill out" posts are simply "chumming" to roil the waters. They all can't possibly be that obtuse to expect different attitudes to apply to "personal space" simply because we strap on an RV and move to the countryside. RV'ing does not require you (never did) to abdicate or sacrifice those social norms taught to you (perhaps not) by your elders but rather to observe them to a greater degree as; has been pointed out many times here by folks using the tightness of RV park quarters as an excuse for bad behaviour, those soscietal rules become even more important in the close confines of typical camping today.
It is not being obtuse or chumming...it's called tolerance. Something many on here seem to have very little of.
I'm one of them who has no tolerance I guess as I firmly believe those who should know better are doing these things knowing full well they are in the wrong but doing it anyway because they get away with it throughout their daily life due to the tolerance shown them. That's called "abuse of priviledge" which tolerant people only encourage with their lax attitude, rules exist for a reason. Once again, you can be as tolerant as you wish with your site as is your priviledge, but again, I ask you not to castigate those who do not choose to be as is our right.
I guess I've been lucky or live in a good part of the country or something...in all my years of camping (county, state, national, and private parks) I have never had anyone deliberately come into my campsite, move my stuff, or bother me whatsoever. I have had a couple people stop on the street, talk to me and ask to see inside my TT because they were looking at buying or ask me about my greyhound, which most of the time I graciously do and make a new friend or two. I can't imagine sitting in my chair beside my TT and someone walking up, moving my stuff, not say a word to me and walk on through - are some people that crazy...words like politeness, tolerance, etc. would definitely not be the words I would be saying to them. I've read all the pages of this thread so far and read a lot of comments both for and against this question/idea and still can't grasp why someone would do it unless they were disabled and couldn't get a site closer to where they wanted to go - which everyone here seems to agree would be tolerated if asked. I don't think anyone here is "Grumpy" or a donkey - they just have their threshold for stupidity.
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