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semiretiredDIY

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Posted: 06/29/09 02:48pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

More important than tire dates, install air monitors, check tire temperature with a infrared device. People tend to overinflate their tires, they check tires early in the morning (cold) the temp goes up to 90 so cold would be 90 deg. To begin with they go by the max pressure on the tire, now that the temp has gone up, they are way overinflated. If as much attention was paid to what dry rot looks like, as to tire date, there would be a lot less new tire buying going on. People are going to say, I always air my tires to the max pressure in the morning when its cold, and forget about how hot it gets. Most blowouts happen in the hottest part of the day, think about that for awhile. I also have advice for those that are obsessed with tire dates, you need to get educated, more to it than dates.

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I appreciate all of the responses I received from my post. Thank you all for your comments, both positive and negative. My plan is to go ahead and buy new tires, but I have seen so many posts regarding problems that people have had with newer Goodyear and Michelin, etc. blowing out that I bagan to wonder what tires I should buy.

Any advice as to how much I should expect to spend on a set of 6 new tires? My tires size is 245/70 R19.5. So far, I have recived one quote for $2,400 incl. tax, mounting and balancing.

Thanks again for all the thoughtful comments.


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djpotts55 wrote:

UV rays, dry rotting, and driving miles are the things that wear out tires. The tire manufacturers will tell you not to drive on tires more than 5 or 6 years old (according to the DOT date), but that is due in large part so they will sell more tires.

My dad is a commercial truck driver and he told me the new tires being sold at most truck tire stores have a DOT date of 5 years ago. The tire shops tell him that the stockpile on most brands of new tires is 3 to 5 years. He runs these new tires (with 5 or 6 year old DOT dates) all of the time without any problems of blowouts, etc. I would think if the commercial truck drivers that are driving 100,000 miles or more per year are using them, us RV owers driving less than 15,000 miles per year should not have any worries.

What are you going to do with those old DOT tires (in new condition) when you get new ones? Seems like a big waste of money to me!!!



In this day and age of bean-counters maintaining lean inventories, I don't buy that tire dealers and companies have many (if any) NEW tires that are 3-5 years old. Someone is feeding your Dad some BS. There may be retreads with older carcasses, but those get used on the trailers----never on a steer tire and probably not often on the drive tires.


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I just had one tire replaced, bought it at Camping World in Junction City Oregon.....mounted and balanced was around $350.00 out the door. Camping world had a $75.00 rebate......and Goodyear has a $50.00 mail in rebate....however they would not owner the mail in since I had gotten a rebate at camping world.......didn't sound right to me...but just tore the letter up and thru it away.

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Ro646a wrote:

I appreciate all of the responses I received from my post. Thank you all for your comments, both positive and negative. My plan is to go ahead and buy new tires, but I have seen so many posts regarding problems that people have had with newer Goodyear and Michelin, etc. blowing out that I bagan to wonder what tires I should buy.

Any advice as to how much I should expect to spend on a set of 6 new tires? My tires size is 245/70 R19.5. So far, I have recived one quote for $2,400 incl. tax, mounting and balancing.

Thanks again for all the thoughtful comments.


Make sure the dealer gives you some trade-in value, because he will quickly turn around and sell those tires to someone running a route truck or the likes.

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I may be a bit late in responding, but, get new tires!!! A couple of years ago I was riding on 9 year old Michelins. They also looked great on the outside, virtually no signs of wear with only 19,000 miles on them.

I decided to be cautious and replace them. When they were removed from the wheels the damage on the INSIDE of the tire was evident. Each and every tire had small cracks throughout the inside of the tire. We were clearly riding on borrowed time.

I replace mine with a full set of 6 Goodyear RV tires. The ride improvement was great, I couldn't be happier with them.


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My 1999 tires looked fine, without any cracks and lots of tread. We left Florida in May and are now in the delta area between San Francisco and Sacramento. Three weeks ago while checking my air pressure, I saw two small tares in the front passenger tire. The biggest tare was about 1 inch long. After driving 30 miles to the tire dealer, I had a third tare. I now have 6 new tires.


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Can anyone reference any factual test or data indicating that five year old tires fail any more often than three year old tires? If it is truly as common as reported here surely there must be some statistical evidence to support it.

Which has the higher failure rate, one year old or two year old tires?

Are six year old tires in fact more likely to fail than five year old tires? If so, by what percentage?

What failure rate is acceptable for seven, six, five or one year old tires? I see several folk’s state that the risk is too high. Can anyone tell me exactly how much more or less risk a five year old tire presents than a six or seven year old tire?

My point is the only factual evidence that matters is the actual condition of the specific tire in question. Replacing tires based on anything else is pure speculation. Some tires should be replaced within weeks of purchase, some much older tires are perfectly servicable.

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I am NOT saying that you should do what I do, but I would replace them with Michelins. I believe that with proper care, and proper use, Michelins will be safe for at least 10 years.
I use Aerospace Protectant 303,.....I apply it frequently and vigorously. I use a stiff worn-out paint brush and I work it into the rubber until it starts pulling some of the carbon-black out of the tire. Ever since I picked it up at the factory, I've been the only one to drive my motorhome. The front tires have never seen less than 110 psi and the rear a minimum of 105 psi. I normally run the fronts at 116 psi and the rear at 106 psi.
And, I'm not the type of driver who panics, no matter what happens.





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Cloud Dancer wrote:

I am NOT saying that you should do what I do, but I would replace them with Michelins. I believe that with proper care, and proper use, Michelins will be safe for at least 10 years.
I use Aerospace Protectant 303,.....I apply it frequently and vigorously. I use a stiff worn-out paint brush and I work it into the rubber until it starts pulling some of the carbon-black out of the tire. Ever since I picked it up at the factory, I've been the only one to drive my motorhome. The front tires have never seen less than 110 psi and the rear a minimum of 105 psi. I normally run the fronts at 116 psi and the rear at 106 psi.
And, I'm not the type of driver who panics, no matter what happens.




Do you do the inner sidewalls to?


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