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Deen

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Posted: 07/02/09 08:55am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Here's the answer I got from Blue Rhino when I asked how much propane was in their tanks:
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Thank you for your recent inquiry to Blue Rhino. We fill the tanks to 15 pounds of propane. You will see this information listed on the front sleeve of every tank. If you have more questions please let us know. Thank you,



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That's about 2.6#'s LESS than a full tank.

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Posted: 07/02/09 09:22am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I stopped getting tanks from them a couple years ago... get them filled locally from a place that you pay per gallon...yes I am not getting a refill for $18, but I am getting a full tank..

Also the local place always cuts the plastic wrappers the refill companies put on... They say they gather and hold moisture, which contributes to the tank rusting...

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Posted: 07/02/09 09:27am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

The place that fills my TT tanks for $21 a piece charges $14 to fill my grill tank and noticeably heavier than a trade in. Small local company that's been there for years.

I'm really happy with my local LP store, I truly hope the modern world doesn't kill them.


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Posted: 07/02/09 09:32am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Blue Rhino is a ripoff. I only refill mine locally not exchange them.


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Shut off valve should be at 80% which is 16 gallons. My understanding is that you can't get 20 gals into the tank anytime.


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Posted: 07/02/09 10:33am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

DaveG39 wrote:

Shut off valve should be at 80% which is 16 gallons. My understanding is that you can't get 20 gals into the tank anytime.


filled it will have 20 pounds of gas not 20 gallons… 20 pounds is 80% of the tanks capacity, and is the proper fill point...

If the tare weight of a 20 pound tank is 18.5 pounds (stamped on the collar of the tank), the full tank should weigh very close to 38.5 pounds…

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One thing to consider about the lowering of the amount of propane in the tank...

There are several threads in several forums about the safety of hauling a portable tank in your basement storage.. I do it, many of us do it, but there is a safety issue.. Here is the issue.

Should the tank get hot, and it often gets hot in basement compartments, the propane liquid will expand.. One person had a translucent tank (Yes they make such things) and he filled it to 80% like you are supposed to, put it in the bed of his pick up and parked in the sun.. 80 turned into 100 percent

This means the tank was venting.. And in fact a tank so stored in your basement would also vent under those conditions.

Now...... If a tank vents in your basement, enclosed, compatment, it is quite possible that the fuel/air mix in the compartment might hit the magic ratio.. and when that happens. should a spark happen, perhaps two pieces of metal striking one another as you hit a bump in the road.. that bump will suddenly be a hole in the road.. A VERY BIG HOLE,

Short filling the tanks is way safer under these conditions as they are way less likely to vent.


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Posted: 07/02/09 11:54am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

John beat me to it, as he is correct.

It all boils down to insurance companies and accidents.

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Posted: 07/02/09 11:57am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

A properly filled tank shouldn’t become over pressurized, but I think they could if filled in a very cold area and are then transported to a very hot area…

It is never a good idea to transport them in a non-vented basement compartment to begin with incase any type of leak would develop

Stations should never depend solely on the opd to prevent overfilling but should also use the dip tube and either a scale or meter as well…

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When a consumer purchases any given product the expectation is generally that the packaging has been designed, supplied and is safe and proper for the use and transport of the product.

The short filling of the container is deceiving to the average consumer who would normally expect the container to be filled to its design specification.

Espousing the excuse for short filling as some sort of safety issue is lame. Regardless of laws, designed safety issues, labeling or whatever, there will always be those who ignore warnings and common sense. Ignorance and idiocy cannot be legislated.

Perhaps we should only allow vehicle fuel tanks to be filled to three-quarters of their designed and intended capacity because some brain deprived moron does something stupid with the vehicle. Or, perhaps the national speed limit should be lowered to twenty-five miles per hour due to a few irresponsible drivers killing themselves and / or others.


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