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Cloud Dancer

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Posted: 10/19/09 10:12am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Yes!
I've never bought a Japanese or European car, or truck.
BUT, if I had plenty of money, I would buy a Lambo Murcielago. I wonder, does this prove I'm not fanatical?


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I try not to buy union.


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I have always said, and WILL say, that the USA is NOT in a recession unless WalMarts are closing. And I don't think ONE had to close at all last year.


Dick A wrote:

1. Americans spend $36,000,000 at Wal-Mart Every hour of every day.

2. This works out to $20,928 profit every minute!

3. Wal-Mart will sell more from January 1 to St. Patrick's Day (March
17th) than Target sells all year.

4. Wal-Mart is bigger than Home Depot + Kroger + Target + Sears +
Costco + K-Mart combined.

5. Wal-Mart employs 1.6 million people and is the largest private
Employer, and most speak English.

6. Wal-Mart is the largest company in the history of the World.

7. Wal-Mart now sells more food than Kroger & Safeway combined, and
keep in mind they did this in only 15 years.

8. During this same period, 31 Supermarket Chains sought bankruptcy.

9. Wal-Mart now sells more food than any other store in the world.

10. Wal-Mart has approx 3,900 stores in the USA of which 1,906 are
Super Centers; this is 1,000 more than it had 5 Years ago.

11. This year 7.2 billion different purchasing experiences will occur
At a Wal-Mart store. (Earth's population is approximately 6.5
Billion.)

12. 90% of all Americans live within 15 miles of a Wal-Mart.






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Posted: 10/19/09 11:58am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

happybooker1 wrote:

I have always said, and WILL say, that the USA is NOT in a recession unless WalMarts are closing. And I don't think ONE had to close at all last year.




You must live in a special place I would hesitate to say that in front of the millions who have lost their jobs and have no source of income. That's the highest form of recession.

It's just that more and more who shopped at other stores are now turning to Walmart. We have lost most of the manufacturing in this country and have become nothing more than a service country. We buy services and other countries products. I wonder how long this can continue, while other countries are amassing the $$ and we are happy watching American Idol. Even most of the American cars have components made in other countries. It requires very little to wear the stamp Made in America.


I think sometimes we forget that the freedoms we have are freedoms not because of celebrities. The freedoms are because of ordinary people who did extraordinary things, who loved this country more than life itself.

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Correct me if I am wrong but didn't Walmarts main competition (Bradley's, Caldor, Zayres, KMart and so on) have access to the same products and manufacturers? Ask yourself why they are dead and Walmart lives and thrives? Here is another head scratcher for the buy USA folks. What do you do when a US comapany is selling products they had made overseas? Made in China does not mean created, designed and owned by China. It simply means they assembled it or made the components while the actual design, marketing and distribution work was still done here. The Chinese or whomever do not make Nike sneakers. They make sneakers for Nike. Same with many of the toys. Fisher Price is not selling Chinese toys, they are selling their product they are having made in China. There is a big difference there. In many cases it is not Chinese comapnies flooding us with products, it our own US companies flooding us with Chinese assembled products. In regards to our manufacturing base? Ever see how many kids are going to school to be machinists or welders and so on? The all drifted to the computer end of the industry or want to be engineers. FWIW who do we have that wants to do piece work to assemble products? There is a reason illegal immigrants are flooding jobs like that. I remember when I was young tons of HS kids picked tobacco. Go do that now and you will be lucky to find any. You will find migrant workers in every field. Ever notice McDonald's is always hiring? A few local McD's actually bus in people from the city. No one in the nearby towns wants to lower themselves to "eww" working at McDonald's. Last I checked they paid a pretty good wage.


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Keith99RS wrote:

. What do you do when a US comapany is selling products they had made overseas? Made in China does not mean created, designed and owned by China. It simply means they assembled it or made the components while the actual design, marketing and distribution work was still done here. The Chinese or whomever do not make Nike sneakers. They make sneakers for Nike. Same with many of the toys. Fisher Price is not selling Chinese toys, they are selling their product they are having made in China.


And, therein lies the root of some of the issues..... wouldn't it be great if those same companies, Nike, Fisher Price etc., invested their efforts into companies in the USA, employing Americans, growing America, rather than getting this stuff made with slave labor, no real regulations (note how much lead poisoning was in the toys and pet foods awhile back), and making those countries wealthy when this country is becoming poorer and poorer.

They want us to pay top dollar for this stuff while they are employing other countries to build it for us. When we can no longer afford to pay the top dollar for a Nike product, I doubt the Chinese who make pennies a day will buy them at those prices. If they want us to buy it, they should employ us to have the wages to buy it.

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I live within 9 miles of FIVE(5) Walmarts and three Sams.
There's a lot of people around here.

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2Rovers wrote:

Keith99RS wrote:

. What do you do when a US comapany is selling products they had made overseas? Made in China does not mean created, designed and owned by China. It simply means they assembled it or made the components while the actual design, marketing and distribution work was still done here. The Chinese or whomever do not make Nike sneakers. They make sneakers for Nike. Same with many of the toys. Fisher Price is not selling Chinese toys, they are selling their product they are having made in China.


And, therein lies the root of some of the issues..... wouldn't it be great if those same companies, Nike, Fisher Price etc., invested their efforts into companies in the USA, employing Americans, growing America, rather than getting this stuff made with slave labor, no real regulations (note how much lead poisoning was in the toys and pet foods awhile back), and making those countries wealthy when this country is becoming poorer and poorer.

They want us to pay top dollar for this stuff while they are employing other countries to build it for us. When we can no longer afford to pay the top dollar for a Nike product, I doubt the Chinese who make pennies a day will buy them at those prices. If they want us to buy it, they should employ us to have the wages to buy it.


Do you know why? Its because everyone of us that plays in the stock market wants to make money. That cant be done here with such high labor so they go to China. So the next time you are so happy about your 401 or your stocks are up you can say i sent all those jobs there.


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Do you know why? Its because everyone of us that plays in the stock market wants to make money. That cant be done here with such high labor so they go to China. So the next time you are so happy about your 401 or your stocks are up you can say i sent all those jobs there.


You are 100% correct. That's one reason we pulled away from the stock market and won't be going back. It's their game, but we don't have to play in their sandbox.

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Dick A wrote:

1. Americans spend $36,000,000 at Wal-Mart Every hour of every day.

12. 90% of all Americans live within 15 miles of a Wal-Mart.


13. Every night 10,000 RVers (my estimate) spend the night parked at Walmart.

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