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BobbyMac

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Posted: 10/20/09 06:14pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

We have a 2007 Cedar Creek fiver. It has an old analog TV and the Concertone surround system. We use Direct TV, with the satellite set up on a tripod.

We are looking to upgrade to a 32" flat screen TV and want to change out the Concertone to a better home theater receiver and a blue ray player.

I believe I have the mechanical part of this solved. However I still have some questions that I hope someone might be able to answer.
1. The Concertone seems to be a 12v system. Will my 15 amp circuit support the Direct TV receiver, the TV, the Blue Ray and the surround sound receiver?
2. Will the speakers work with a regular surround sound receiver or will I have to replace them?
3. Will I be able to use the old TV in the bedroom if I get a HD satellite feed?
4. Are there any special considerations with the mounting of the flat screen TV?
5. Are there any hidden issues that may not have occurred to me?

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Posted: 10/20/09 06:38pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

BobbyMac wrote:

1. The Concertone seems to be a 12v system. Will my 15 amp circuit support the Direct TV receiver, the TV, the Blue Ray and the surround sound receiver?
2. Will the speakers work with a regular surround sound receiver or will I have to replace them?
3. Will I be able to use the old TV in the bedroom if I get a HD satellite feed?
4. Are there any special considerations with the mounting of the flat screen TV?
5. Are there any hidden issues that may not have occurred to me?


1. Yes. I run the same setup except with a DVR in my coach - all on the same 15A circuit.
2. Yes. Check your new receiver's setup options to see if it needs to know whether you are using miniature speakers as opposed to bookshelf or freestanding.
3. Yes. The HD capable dish will also provide a standard def feed for your bedroom.
4. I used a mount that is heavy enough for a much larger LCD. I also reinforced the mounting location with plywood.
5. No other issues that I can think of.


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If you are going to HDTV get the Slimline 3 dish with the builtin multiswitch and you only have to run one cable to your trailer. You do have to buy a power inserter/supply for the SWM on the dish. Then inside you can put a power passing splitter and send a feed to the bedroom TV. I am assuming you are getting new receivers which are MPEG4 and will select a signal that is available from this dish as there are 8 signals on the ly need to hook one cabone cable into the trailer. If you have a DVR you only have to hook one cable to it and it will select 2 signals for the DVR so you can watch one channel and record another channel. WE have this setup for over 6 months now and it works great.


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If you are feeding the rear tv with (tv output jack) on your current receiver you might find a new HD receiver does not have an (rf, tv output jack) so you might not be able to feed two televisions conveniently.

If you are using two different satellite boxes the HD cable input will feed the standard definition box just fine.


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I just bought a 5th wheel and have bought the new slimline 3 dish with the built in multiswitch. It has 4 coaxial leads. I have a hr21-100 hooked to a 40" lcd. Are you saying you can split that line inside the trailer? I only have the 1 external satellite connection on the 5th wheel. I would like to be able to use the second tuner on my DVR an maybe even run lines to the bedroom tv if possible.


rhingst wrote:

If you are going to HDTV get the Slimline 3 dish with the builtin multiswitch and you only have to run one cable to your trailer. You do have to buy a power inserter/supply for the SWM on the dish. Then inside you can put a power passing splitter and send a feed to the bedroom TV. I am assuming you are getting new receivers which are MPEG4 and will select a signal that is available from this dish as there are 8 signals on the ly need to hook one cabone cable into the trailer. If you have a DVR you only have to hook one cable to it and it will select 2 signals for the DVR so you can watch one channel and record another channel. WE have this setup for over 6 months now and it works great.






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srosa wrote:

BobbyMac wrote:

1. The Concertone seems to be a 12v system. Will my 15 amp circuit support the Direct TV receiver, the TV, the Blue Ray and the surround sound receiver?
2. Will the speakers work with a regular surround sound receiver or will I have to replace them?
3. Will I be able to use the old TV in the bedroom if I get a HD satellite feed?
4. Are there any special considerations with the mounting of the flat screen TV?
5. Are there any hidden issues that may not have occurred to me?


1. Yes. I run the same setup except with a DVR in my coach - all on the same 15A circuit.
2. Yes. Check your new receiver's setup options to see if it needs to know whether you are using miniature speakers as opposed to bookshelf or freestanding.
3. Yes. The HD capable dish will also provide a standard def feed for your bedroom.
4. I used a mount that is heavy enough for a much larger LCD. I also reinforced the mounting location with plywood.
5. No other issues that I can think of.


15amp 120v = 1800 watts

the OP is 15 amps 12v = 180 watts

the new equipment will all be 120v

add up the power useage find out how big an inverter you need to convert 12v to 120v, i doubt the 12v wiring will supply enough to run the inverter because of voltage drop to the inverter with a load

you will very likely need to install an inverter close to the batteries and run a 120v circuit to the TV & video equpment

where do you camp ? do use shore power ? or do you dry camp and need power conversion 12v to 120v


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Posted: 10/20/09 09:48pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Bama5150, you do not have the Slimline with the builtin SWM if it has 4 leads. The Slimline SL3-SWM only has 1 lead which carries 8 signals through it. That is what you want. With the 1 you have you only have 4 signals going to your RV.

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MrWizard wrote:

srosa wrote:

BobbyMac wrote:

1. The Concertone seems to be a 12v system. Will my 15 amp circuit support the Direct TV receiver, the TV, the Blue Ray and the surround sound receiver?
2. Will the speakers work with a regular surround sound receiver or will I have to replace them?
3. Will I be able to use the old TV in the bedroom if I get a HD satellite feed?
4. Are there any special considerations with the mounting of the flat screen TV?
5. Are there any hidden issues that may not have occurred to me?


1. Yes. I run the same setup except with a DVR in my coach - all on the same 15A circuit.
2. Yes. Check your new receiver's setup options to see if it needs to know whether you are using miniature speakers as opposed to bookshelf or freestanding.
3. Yes. The HD capable dish will also provide a standard def feed for your bedroom.
4. I used a mount that is heavy enough for a much larger LCD. I also reinforced the mounting location with plywood.
5. No other issues that I can think of.


15amp 120v = 1800 watts

the OP is 15 amps 12v = 180 watts

the new equipment will all be 120v

add up the power useage find out how big an inverter you need to convert 12v to 120v, i doubt the 12v wiring will supply enough to run the inverter because of voltage drop to the inverter with a load

you will very likely need to install an inverter close to the batteries and run a 120v circuit to the TV & video equpment

where do you camp ? do use shore power ? or do you dry camp and need power conversion 12v to 120v


We only use the TV and surround sound when hooked up to shore power so I won't need an inverter.

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Posted: 10/20/09 11:26pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Thanks for all the great information. Sounds like it's all going to work about the way I thought.

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One issue. If you are not satisfied with the sound from your existing surround sound system, the problem may not be the receiver. Most likely the weak links in your surround sound are the speakers and the acoustic environment. A great receiver with junk speakers inside a plastic box may not sound better than a cheap receiver with junk speakers inside a plastic box.

If sound quality is important, I would consider high-quality isolating headphones.


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