Pretty explicit web site: We may see some mandatory weighing - States need the money and want to protest the roads-- great money grab. Note that the OHIO and PA turnpikes turn RV's with overweight back.
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Are recreational vehicles subject to Interstate axle weight limits? (23 CFR 658.5)
Yes.
Are recreational vehicles required to stop at State scale sites? (23 CFR 658.5)
Each State may set its own requirements.
Are recreational vehicles subject to Federal size and reasonable access requirements? (23 CFR 658.5)
No, because they are not commercial motor vehicles.
dentmac wrote: Motorhomes can be overweight and illegal for two reasons.
ONE: over their GAWR - This is illegal and subject to fines and even removal of licence. A government scale could issue a fine.
TWO: over DOT permissible axle weights. 20,000 lbs for any single in almost all states. A few have a grandfather clause that allows up to 22,000lbs. 34,000 lbs for a tandem axle. This is also illegal but enforcement is weak so far. Ohio turnpike and parts of the PA turnpike will disallow overweight motorhomes.
Many states and provinces will allow motorhomes to be weighed . They will wave you on or do your weight. no problem and No charge. some are left "on" at night and after hours and can be used
That may be the case in Canada, but there are no weight laws on motorhomes in the U.S. If you believe different, quote me any state or federal law.
CT General Statutes--Title 14--Chapter 248--Section 14-267a--Weight restrictions for vehicles, trailers or other objects. Penalties for overweight violations. Fines for failure to comply.
Your CT statute ONLY refers to Commercial Vehicles....RVs are NOT Commercial Vehicles....Read my next post re: CFR.
From one retired cop to another, I hate to tell you you're wrong, but you are. I have the CT book right in front of me, and just re-read the statute. It refers to ALL vehicles (with specific exemptions)and DOES NOT refer to commercial vehicles only.
I have to agree with dentmac on this one.
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dentmac wrote: Pretty explicit web site: We may see some mandatory weighing - States need the money and want to protest the roads-- great money grab. Note that the OHIO and PA turnpikes turn RV's with overweight back.
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Federal Gov website Federal Government website
Are recreational vehicles subject to Interstate axle weight limits? (23 CFR 658.5)
Yes.
Are recreational vehicles required to stop at State scale sites? (23 CFR 658.5)
Each State may set its own requirements.
Are recreational vehicles subject to Federal size and reasonable access requirements? (23 CFR 658.5)
No, because they are not commercial motor vehicles.
CT does include Recreation Vehicles in the Commercial Vehicle defination, BUT only if they weigh over 26,000 lbs.
The question and answer document from Fed Hwys is incorrect regarding RVs.
Here is the quote from the statute:
23 CFR 658.5
Commercial motor vehicle. For purposes of this regulation, a motor vehicle designed or regularly used to carry freight, merchandise, or more than ten passengers, whether loaded or empty, including buses, BUT NOT including vehicles used for vanpools, or recreational vehicles operating under their own power.
Here are a couple of Q/As from the info sheet
23 CFR 658.15
Does the Federal 102-inch minimum/maximum width limit on the NN apply on non-commercial vehicles, such as recreational vehicles?
"No. It applies only on commercial vehicles."
23 CFR 658.5
Are recreation vehicles subject to Federal size and reasonable access requirements?
"No because they are not commercial motor vehicles.
It's obvious that the Federal Government does not consider RVs to be Commercial Vehicles. End of story.....and end of my post on the subject.
From a 32 year cop, 7 years CHP,supervising Commercial Vehicle Inspection Stations (weigh stations on federal highways); member of various commercial vehicle safety/compliance committees with trucking industry; 26 years Las Vegas Metro, 7 years Traffic Section LT supervising 130 motorcycle officers, author or co-author of Traffic Section, Nevada Revised Statutes; member of Nevada Transportation Safety Committee, advisor National Highway Safety Admisistration, West Coast District; Chairman, Nevada Traffic Safety Committee, member, Steering Commitee, Freeway and Arterial System of Transportation for Nevada (FAST), member, Regional Transportation Commission, Southern Nevada, Advisor to Nevada Legislature for traffic matters, Clark County Sheriff's representative/advisor for all traffic matters, Chairman, Traffic Accident Review Board, Las Vegas Metro PD.
Good day and be safe.
Joe Greenwood
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An RV is not a commercial vehicle and is not affected by laws that pertain to commercial vehicles--- agreed
An RV does have to abide by the rules for "all" vehicles
width rules, height rules , length rules (state), bridge formulas and axle weight rules. The fed website is correct.
Read NHTSA
dentmac wrote: Pretty explicit web site: We may see some mandatory weighing - States need the money and want to protest the roads-- great money grab. Note that the OHIO and PA turnpikes turn RV's with overweight back.
Copied from:
Federal Gov website Federal Government website
Are recreational vehicles subject to Interstate axle weight limits? (23 CFR 658.5)
Yes.
Are recreational vehicles required to stop at State scale sites? (23 CFR 658.5)
Each State may set its own requirements.
Are recreational vehicles subject to Federal size and reasonable access requirements? (23 CFR 658.5)
No, because they are not commercial motor vehicles.
CT does include Recreation Vehicles in the Commercial Vehicle defination, BUT only if they weigh over 26,000 lbs.
The question and answer document from Fed Hwys is incorrect regarding RVs.
Here is the quote from the statute:
23 CFR 658.5
Commercial motor vehicle. For purposes of this regulation, a motor vehicle designed or regularly used to carry freight, merchandise, or more than ten passengers, whether loaded or empty, including buses, BUT NOT including vehicles used for vanpools, or recreational vehicles operating under their own power.
Here are a couple of Q/As from the info sheet
23 CFR 658.15
Does the Federal 102-inch minimum/maximum width limit on the NN apply on non-commercial vehicles, such as recreational vehicles?
"No. It applies only on commercial vehicles."
23 CFR 658.5
Are recreation vehicles subject to Federal size and reasonable access requirements?
"No because they are not commercial motor vehicles.
It's obvious that the Federal Government does not consider RVs to be Commercial Vehicles. End of story.....and end of my post on the subject.
From a 32 year cop, 7 years CHP,supervising Commercial Vehicle Inspection Stations (weigh stations on federal highways); member of various commercial vehicle safety/compliance committees with trucking industry; 26 years Las Vegas Metro, 7 years Traffic Section LT supervising 130 motorcycle officers, author or co-author of Traffic Section, Nevada Revised Statutes; member of Nevada Transportation Safety Committee, advisor National Highway Safety Admisistration, West Coast District; Chairman, Nevada Traffic Safety Committee, member, Steering Commitee, Freeway and Arterial System of Transportation for Nevada (FAST), member, Regional Transportation Commission, Southern Nevada, Advisor to Nevada Legislature for traffic matters, Clark County Sheriff's representative/advisor for all traffic matters, Chairman, Traffic Accident Review Board, Las Vegas Metro PD.
Good day and be safe.
Wouldn't you think that somebody with all those credentials could "man up" and admit it when they are wrong.
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