catman2130093 wrote: I live in my motorhome, have for many years. When folks try the "homeless" thing with me, I just tell them my home is "homeless", though I am not! ;-)
You're not homeless, your HOUSELESS!
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1. Conservative fulltiming........like in the olden days gone by
2. Liberalism fulltiming..........like many think it is today
3. Democratic fulltiming..........like what the majority thinks it is
4. Republican fulltiming..........like what the minority thinks it shud be
5. Green fulltiming...............like what the geeks think it shud be
And on and on and on and on .....then there is Star Trek..... Are they fulltimers?
And on and on and on and on .....then there is Star Trek..... Are they fulltimers?
Well they do have a motor (impulse and warp), they do move from place to place to see new things, explore new planets, they have EVERYTHING with them at all times, they sleep in their own bed at night (whatever night is in the middle of galaxy), they carry their own food (or rather they make it out of waste atoms from the bathroom/laundry/trash disposal), they are totally self contained, and they use electronic (or subspace) communications to stay in touch with those left behind - - sure sounds like a fulltimer to me!
So if you really want to be a fulltimer, just sell your houses and move into your rv? It certainly would simplify your life and you wouldn't have to think up reasons that you could be called a fulltimer
I think sometimes we forget that the freedoms we have are freedoms not because of celebrities. The freedoms are because of ordinary people who did extraordinary things, who loved this country more than life itself.
"So if you really want to be a fulltimer, just sell your houses and move into your rv? It certainly would simplify your life and you wouldn't have to think up reasons that you could be called a fulltimer"
WOW What a novel Idea, wish I had thought of that explanation !!!!!!!!!!
Quote: Although I own and still live in a stick built house (actually I own 2 stick built houses), I also own an RV. It's a travel trailer.
zat so?
Quote: This qualifies me for "Full Time" status because:
1) I have possession of my TT 24x7. It's not part time possession. It sits on my property 24x7 when I'm not camping in it. That "possession" is "full time". I live with it every moment. I just don't live "in" it 24x7.
My RV is a part time possession. When I'm not in it, its on a spot of land that I rent from a park, not even my own land. I don't live with it when I'm not there, it stays behind while I go to my job and errands. I don't use it every minute of the day so its part time. I'm gone about 12 hours a day, so I'll rate me at 1/2 time.
If you are full time owner of your rv by its position placement, I am part time by mine. You're 1, I'm 2.
Quote: 2) I pay a loan on it. It's not a "part time" loan, is a "full time loan" with a payment due every month, just like my house. My house has a 30 year loan, my TT has a 15 year loan? The second mortgage on one of my houses is also a 15 year loan. There's no such thing as a "part time" loan. It's all or nothing!
I have a free and clear title for my trailer and no liens against it. If you are full time owner of your trailer while sharing it with the funder, I guess that makes me double full-timer. A two-timer owner? Heh. With the half from before that puts me back to full time, 1 to 1.
Quote: 3) I pay insurance, personal property tax, and license plates for it - 100%. I do wish I could pay these things for the times I'm actually camping with it only - you know, pro-rated. (Now wouldn't that be GREAT!) If you camp in your RV only 2 weeks a year, the cost of insurance, personal property tax, and the license plates would only be 1/26 of the cost I'm paying for it now?
Well, my trailer is parked in a location that requires that it maintain valid registration always. I'm going to speculate and say you camp less than 1/5th the time. Since I sleep in mine every night, that puts my timer at 5 times yours, making the math I'm at 5 timers, you at one.
Quote: 4) I have responsibility for it 24x7 also. That responsibility is not a "part time" responsibility. My wife and I (and the bank) are the sole owners. No one else is taking care of my RV but me (and my wife).
I have free and clear personal title. You have 1/3rd title at best (to split between you, wife, and bank arbitrarily). You have full time, I have 15 timers.
Quote: 5) Care and maintenance is a "full time" job also. It doesn't matter if it's sitting in a campground or in my yard, I still have to wash it, fix it when something get's broke, and maintain it. That's a 24x7 job also. I can never get away from this.
I've never washed my RV, though I do maintain things like the windows and fittings. I get away from it the 12 hours a day I'm not at the RV, so I guess I can knock me down to 7.5 timers from the full timer you got on maintenance.
Quote: 6) My RV is constantly on my mind 24x7. Even at work. I live for my RV and the opportunity to sleep in it, use it, go somewhere in it. I spend a considerable amount of my income on my RV. I have photos of it on my wall at work, and even in my billfold .... funny, I don't have any pictures of my own kids in my billfold!
I'm agog. Seriously? You're that attached to a possession you don't actually fully own? I live for my dogs, my other half, and spend my time and money on them far more than the trailer I have. I spend as little on my RV as I can. My money is better spent on eliminating future liabilities and entertaining me and mine than ole rusty mc-soggy-awning there. I'll give you 4 time credit on that one, since you put so much effort in.
that puts you at one, me at 1.875 timers.
Quote: 7) I keep the TT stocked 24x7 with food and clothing, propane tanks always ready, tires inflated correctly 24x7, and trailer plugged into electricity 24x7 to keep the battery charged and refrigerator cold. Even in the coldest winter months.
Well, as I actually use my propane, theyre not *both* always ready - one is generally somewhere between full and empty, and for short periods of time one is empty and the other is utilized. I also have to rearrange my furniture inside (takes about 2 minutes) in order to close the slide, making me less 'ready to go'. My tires might ooze a little air as I don't check them frequently - heck, I haven't checked them in 2 months, they're just sitting there. I'll check before I go, but you got me there.
I'll give you a 1.25 time credit on that, as I don't think that really is particularly meaningful.
That puts the rating on me at 2.3 to your 1.
Closer than I thought, but if I'm a full timer, that still puts you at less than half a timer.
Oh come on guys, it was entertaining and thoughtful. If we were in a formal debate I would say he was well prepared and presented his arguement well. Made me chuckle.
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skipnchar wrote: Can't argue with that logic. Now explain the DIFFERENCE between the more TRADITIONAL fill timer who lives full time in their RV and a homeless person. Is it something MORE than the cost of the vehicle they live in?
I live and travel in my Motor Home and that does not make me a Homeless Person
I do not live under a bridge and beg for money on a street corner.
I pay my way through life and have for 74 years years'
Pay a lot of taxes for sure.
So don't call me Homeless..
It's not my intent to drill into a NERVE of anyone (though apparently I did in your case) or to insult anyone (though that apparently isn't YOUR goal) Mine was to stimulate an interesting conversation just like the OP did with HIS assessment. ALL of the things you mention, with the possible exception of paying large taxes can be said of some homeless people.
I've never considered myself homeless...just "houseless"....
By that logic, I was a full timer back in highschool in my pickup. I was way too into it and focused on it far too much. Washed and waxed it a few times a week. Even would sleep in the back when camping (no it just had an aluminum cap). I don't think anyone would consider it full timing. ; )
Did someone say the definition of homeless is living under a bridge? I guess we qualify as we have spent a number of nights under a bridge. Christmas eve 2007 was spent under a brdige in the swamps of Alabama on our boat (If you anchor outside the piers, you don't have to worry as much about the barges running you down in the middle of the night.)
Fine to have the debate, but a fairly weak arguement.
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