Center Pin wrote: Lubricity or lack of kills injection pumps, here's a good comparison of additives out there Diesel Additive Study
Particles in fuel kills injectors, stock fuel filters are not good enough. There is a white paper I read that was put out by Boshe, that recomended 2 micron filtering. Water is an instant killer. I upgraded my fuel system so it draws from the tank, then a spin-on 144 micron water filter, then a 3 micron spin-on fuel filter, then the stock 7 micron water blocking fuel filter.
Shouldn't the 7 microm filter be after the 144 and BEFORE the 3 micron? The 7 micron will never catch any particles since the 3 is before it in the chain. Cat uses a 30 micron then a 2 micron as I remember
I use a half-ounce per gallon of 2 cycle ashless oil. If oil doesn't provide lubrication, then I'm out the effort. I began using this oil when the ULSD was forced upon us, because that fuel depends on the local fuel distributor to add the called-for lubricants, and if they forget or disregard or short the additives, the customers get shafted from the blind side. The oil has made my old 7.3 F250 run quieter. I also use a dash of PowerService to keep the injectors clean and the fuel gel-free.
One ounce of TCW-3 two stroke oil per gallon of fuel. Provides added lubricity to the fuel. Your injectors will thank you. The Walmart brand is the cheapest, about $10.00 per gallon.
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I too have an '05 6.0L. It's in an F350 as in my signature. I also happen to work for a Motorcraft Distributor. We are a Ford Authorized Distributor.
I know Ford recommends part# PM22A, or PM23A. PM22A is a Cetane Booster and Performance Improver (ULSD Compliant). The PM23A is a Anti-Gel and Performance Improver (ULSD Compliant), which is used in lower temps.
I add the PM22A to every gallon of diesel fuel that I run through my 6.0L. I haven't had any issues with my 6.0 so far. I'm not sure that this additive is the reason or not, but for such a small cost, I will continue to use it.
Good luck!
Several (blind) lubricity studies out there.
The one done on the Chev Diesel forum was the Opti-lube = best . . . .
however - IIRC they rated a small amt of bio-diesel as "just as good".
rdd - The products you mention - appear to be cetane boosters - and I suspect *NOT* intended for Ford diesels *requiring* ULSD.
(Mfg after Jan. 07 - with a DPF).
And for the folks who stumble on this thread - *NO* additives for the newer diesel engines which require ULSD . . . and BAD things *will* happen if you run Low Sulfur Diesel (in Mexico, or?) in your engine.
Bottom line - it's your engine - read the owners manual.
ol Bombero-JC wrote: Several (blind) lubricity studies out there.
The one done on the Chev Diesel forum was the Opti-lube = best . . . .
however - IIRC they rated a small amt of bio-diesel as "just as good".
rdd - The products you mention - appear to be cetane boosters - and I suspect *NOT* intended for Ford diesels *requiring* ULSD.
(Mfg after Jan. 07 - with a DPF).
And for the folks who stumble on this thread - *NO* additives for the newer diesel engines which require ULSD . . . and BAD things *will* happen if you run Low Sulfur Diesel (in Mexico, or?) in your engine.
Bottom line - it's your engine - read the owners manual.
~
JC
Numerous Ford documents including the owners manual diesel supplement for the 2009 6.4l recommend the PM-22-A / PM-23-A adatives.
The PM-22-A may be titles "Cetane Booster & Performance Improver", but the bottle bullet points include "Adds lubricity to the fuel to reduce engine wear" and "ULSD Compliant"
The only problem with the PM-22-A is the small 20oz bottles. I read what I believe was a Ford bulletin that mentioned the PM-22-A or an equivalent such as Stanadyne Performance Formula, and I see that this equivalent is available in 1, 5 and 55gal sizes in addition to the tiny 20oz.
When I have time I plan to find a Standyne distributor in my area and see if the $/oz of the 5gal size is better than the PM-22-A.
Guess folks can add anything they think they need to their diesel fuel.
Our company runs mostly Ford diesels, many with well over 150,000 miles on them, none ever get any fuel additives with the exception of antigel when it gets real cold.
No issues from fuel lubricity, none, not one. We have had glow plugs and glow plug relays fail, an oil pump failure, clogged EGRs 1 failed turbo charger, a couple of cracked heads (repaired under warranty) and some oil leaks.
Adding any additive except to address a particular issue such as an antigel is a waste of money and in many cases does more harm than good.
Center Pin wrote: Lubricity or lack of kills injection pumps, here's a good comparison of additives out there Diesel Additive Study
Particles in fuel kills injectors, stock fuel filters are not good enough. There is a white paper I read that was put out by Boshe, that recomended 2 micron filtering. Water is an instant killer. I upgraded my fuel system so it draws from the tank, then a spin-on 144 micron water filter, then a 3 micron spin-on fuel filter, then the stock 7 micron water blocking fuel filter.
Shouldn't the 7 microm filter be after the 144 and BEFORE the 3 micron? The 7 micron will never catch any particles since the 3 is before it in the chain. Cat uses a 30 micron then a 2 micron as I remember
Yes it should however the FASS system I have has the 144 - 3 combo, many guys just run this. I kept the stock 7 in place to keep the WIF light and fuel heater, also it's protection incase a sloppy filter change lets something in. I have yet needed to change the 7 in this setup. Best setup (used in lost of marine applications) in 30-10-2.
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