Open Roads Forum

Print  |  Close

Topic: Long bed vs. Short Bed

Posted By: Cecilt on 10/04/10 02:22pm

What seems to be the preference. Currently tow a TT and might or might not upgrade to a 5th wheel. Happy with the TT and it fits our needs but like everything else sometimes that itch doesn's want to disappear.

Looking at 2005-2008 Ford 250/350 V-10's. Found a long bed with topper. Does a long bed make it more difficult to park, maneauver and especially back in a TT in a tighter campground than a SB. tks

* This post was edited 10/04/10 02:46pm by Cecilt *


Posted By: fla-gypsy on 10/04/10 02:35pm

16" longer wheelbase on the Ford. I do not see that as a big issue. I pull a TT exclusively and I use a short bed

* This post was edited 10/05/10 05:29am by fla-gypsy *


09 SuperDuty Crew Cab 6.8L/4.10(The Black Pearl)
06 Keystone Hornet 29 RLS/(The Cracker Cabana)


Posted By: Tystevens on 10/04/10 02:50pm

The difference is 18", give or take. Irrelevant in most situations, important in some. In some parking lots, I've been glad I didn't get a long bed! Note that 18" can seem like a lot. I know when I drive our 'Burb (about 2 ft shorter than my ccsb), the 'Burb feels noticeably smaller negotiating lots and so forth. Depends how/where you use your truck, I guess.

If I didn't have a truck and was looking expressly to pull a 5'er, I'd have a strong preference for a long bed. But the sliding hitches make the functional sb/lb distinction less relevant than it used to be.


2008 Hornet Hideout 27B
2010 Chevy Suburban 1500 LT, Z71 package, 5.3/6A/3.42
2011 Ford F150 XLT Supercrew, 3.5 Ecoboost/6A/3.55 LS

Prior TVs:
2006 Chevy Silverado 2500HD ccsb 4x4 LT, Duramax LBZ
2005 Chevy Suburban 1500 4x4 LT, 5.3/4A/4.10


Posted By: In The Wind on 10/04/10 03:28pm

Standard bed works great for us.


http://www.AdventuresInTheWind.blogspot.com

2001 H-D Road King
2011 Chevy Silverado 2500HD
2011 Keystone Fuzion 360 Toy-Hauler


"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly, what is essential is invisible to the eye."
- Antoine de Saint-Exupery



Posted By: 45Ricochet on 10/04/10 03:37pm

Long bed here no problems. Hitch is also cheaper.
My turns are a bit wider than a S/B. Many standard garages won't hold a L/B.


06 Ram 3500 CC LB Laramie 4x4 Dually 5.9 Cummins Smarty Jr 48RE Jacobs brake
GVWR 12,200 RAWR 9350
06 Grand Junction 34' High profile 15500 GVWR 3200 pin Mor/ryde 5500 Onan genny Dual A/C Wet bolts
27' Hallett 502, 500HP



Posted By: kaydeejay on 10/04/10 04:17pm

Short beds are now what the 5'6" beds on some 1/2 ton trucks are called.
What we USED to know as short beds are now in fact called "Standard" beds and are around 6'8" long.
I assume this is what you are talking about.
If you pull a fiver with one of these 6'8" beds you may need a sliding hitch to guarantee you do not put the fiver through the truck back window.
With my straight front fiver I know I need a slider. Some will, some won't depending on the shape of the front of the fiver. Just check it out.


Keith J.
1999 Sunnybrook 27RKFS Fiver.
2005 GMC Sierra 2500HD CC/SB/DA 2WD, LLY with LBZ air cleaner, 52 gal Titan tank, Bilsteins, Line-X, Westin steps, Prodigy, Retrax cover, 16K Superglide, 5th-Airborne pin-box, Multi-vex mirrors, TST TPMS.



Posted By: skipnchar on 10/04/10 04:54pm

The bed makes no difference at all but the wheel base (sometimes goes along WITH the bed length depending on the cab configuration) makes a TREMENDOUS difference. With my F-250 crew cab, long bed, I cannot pull into my alley because of utility poles on each side of the alley opening. With the F-150 it's an easy turn (It's a long bed regular cab). Total wheel base a LOT shorter. A good PART of the difference is the really poor turning radius of the F-250 compared to the F-150 also so it's never all that simple.


2011 F-150 HD Ecoboost 3.5 V6. 2550 payload, 17,100 GCVWR -
2004 F-150 HD (Traded after 80,000 towing miles)
2007 Rockwood 8314SS 34' travel trailer

US Govt survey shows three out of four people make up 75% of the total population



Posted By: Devocamper on 10/04/10 05:11pm

The long bed is more stable for towing a TT and the long bed also is better for turning with a fifth wheel , we have towed both a TT and now a Fifth Wheel with a short bed and long bed and I find the long bed has been better for both .


08 NU-WA Hitchhiker Discover America 339 RSB
07 Chevy 3500HD LT1 EXT Cab LB DRW D/A


Posted By: bldrbuck on 10/04/10 05:32pm

For solo parking the short bed will be able to get into more spaces. For towing you will need to make wider turns with the Longbed.


93 Ford F350 Turbo Diesel, DRW, Crew Cab. PullRite Hitch. 35' King of the Road 5er, 192 Watts Solar, 2800 Watt Yamaha Generator, 1750 Watt Inverter, 2 Trogan T105 Batteries, Me, my wife and 2 maltize furkids.


Posted By: coolbreeze01 on 10/04/10 05:40pm

I like the looks of short-beds but I buy long-beds because I haul stuff.


2008 Dodge 3500 With a Really Strong Tractor Motor...........
LB, SRW, 4X4, 6-Speed Auto, 3.73, Prodigy P3, Blue Ox Sway Pro........
2014 Sandsport 26FBSL


Posted By: conmoto on 10/04/10 06:05pm

On some models the fuel tank is larger on a long bed. That may be a consideration.
I am dealing with same questions in going from a TT to a 5th wheel. After having a standard bed for a long time we took a long bed for a lengthy test drive and came away thinking the long bed would be just fine. The primary reasons being the larger fuel tank and being able to haul more stuff.


Posted By: 4*phun*2 on 10/04/10 06:09pm

Bigger fuel tank. More storage. Big pluses in my book.


Glenn & Karen
'08 Chevy LT 3500 HD 4x4 CC LB DRW (nice hips)
'06 F350 4X4 Lariat CC LB DRW (nice hips) retired
'09 Victory Lane 38SRV Toy Hauler
'02 HD Road King FLHRCI KRUZN
'04 F150 XLT Super Crew
Our Toys



Posted By: Old-Biscuit on 10/04/10 06:22pm

Long bed.....bigger fuel tank means I (usually) don't have to refuel with 5'vr hitched
Long bed.....don't need more expensive slider hitch
Long bed.....more room for hauling odds/ends

Long bed.....parking lot spaces tighter getting into so I just back into them
Long bed.....turning radius no where near the short (standard) beds' but I know that and deal with it accordingly

Long bed gets my vote!


Posted By: mowermech on 10/04/10 06:52pm

I haul lumber now and then. Anything up to 12 feet I use the pickup. Longer stuff goes on the trailer.
I haul hay 2 or 3 times per year. When I do, I want to make one trip.
I have been known to sleep in the bed of my truck. I want room for the "stuff" and still be able to stretch out.
I have owned short bed (or "short box") trucks, and I have owned long box trucks. The short box/short wheelbase trucks had their place, as fun trucks. For WORK, though, I want an 8 foot box (or an 8X10 flatbed) on my truck.


CM1, USN (RET)
2002 Fleetwood Southwind 32V, Ford V10
Toad: '06 PT Cruiser, Kar Kaddy dolly
Toy (may become a toad): 2001 Dodge QC SWB, 360 Magnum, Auto, 4X4
"When seconds count, help is only minutes away!"


Posted By: JIMNLIN on 10/04/10 07:51pm

Agree with Skip. The bed length makes no difference in handling or carrying capacity or maneuevering. The difference is in the trucks wheelbase.

I've owned short beds and long bed trucks. I always buy what I need at that time. Currantly have a short bed truck and simply use a sliding type hitch for the 5th wheel if its ever needed which isn't much. Parking a 4 door truck in my garage requires a short bed truck.


"good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment" ............ Will Rogers

'03 2500 QC Dodge/Cummins HO 3.73 6 speed manual Jacobs Westach
'97 Park Avanue 28' 5er 11200 two slides


Posted By: DutchmenSport on 10/04/10 08:15pm

The interior of my bed is 8 feet and 1/2 inch. It's GREAT for hauling 2x4's, 2x6's, 2x10's and 2x12's that are all 8 feet long and I can still shut the tailgate! And 2x4x10's fit comfortably in the bed also if put in diagonal from corner to opposite corner! I love to do a lot of wood working and am constantly building something. So, in addition to towing, the bed of the pick-up is important for other things too.

Consider the advantages of a longer bed when not towing? As far as ease of maneuverability, I got use to making wider turns! No problem!

FYI, I have a utility trailer with a bed that is 5 feet wide by 10 feet long so I can lay a normal sheet of plywood or dry wall flat (4x8 feet) and transport it!

Before purchasing a truck, consider what you will be using it for when NOT towing! Your decision may surprise you!


DutchmenSport

2014 Chevy Silverado 3500 Dually Duramax 6.6 HD diesel
2013 Keystone Outback 298RE Travel Trailer
I am now the proud owner of an Equal-i-zer WD hitch, 14,000 pounds. My Reese bit the dust after more than 10 years of use on 3 trailers!



Posted By: UsualSuspect on 10/05/10 12:01am

I have a long bed, and prefer it over a short bed, larger fuel tank, can lay a 4 X 8 sheet of plywood in the bed when I need to. I have a Tundra I use as my DD. If I were doing mainly big city driving I would take the short bed only because most city parking lots are tight, and the long bed's turning radius makes you have to plan your parking. The Tundra I just zip in and out, the long bed, I look for a spot, then plan on how I am going to get it in there. If we decide to go into Los Angeles and take the long bed, the DW won't drive it at all.


2007 Fleetwood Excursion 40E Cat C7 350 HP
2007 Chev 2500HD D/A Long bed CC (Yes, it is my TOAD )
2011 Toyota Tundra
Gone but not forgotten, 2008 Jayco 299 RLS


Posted By: TXiceman on 10/05/10 06:14am

A long bed will have a longer wheelbase and it takes more room ro make a turn, so parking get a bit more difficult...but not bad. Plus a long bed, I can hauls 8' lumber with the tailgate up.

Ken


Amateur Radio Operator.
2012 Cameo 37RSQ, toted with a 2012, F350, 6.7L PSD, Crewcab, dually. 3.73 axle, Full Time RVer.
Travel with a miniature schnauzer, a standard schnauzer and a Timneh African Gray parrot


Posted By: Dave H M on 10/05/10 07:20am

I have a stndsrd bed and have never been disappointed. It depends on your needs.

I get a kick out of the ole drywall and plywood addage. When that need arises i just leave the tail gate flopped down and loade her up. what is the issue, I don't care if someone notices that I am hauling plwood. And if you are the type tht likes to jack rabbit from stops just put a strap around the back of the load.


Posted By: Vulcaneer on 10/06/10 11:19am

Cecilt wrote:

Does a long bed make it more difficult to park, maneauver and especially back in a TT in a tighter campground than a SB. tks


Yes it does, assuming the wheelbase is longer.


'12 F350 SB, CC, SRW, 6.7 PSD, 3.55 RAR, 6 spd auto
2011 Open Range 393RLS 14,250 GVWR
Pullrite Super Glide 18K

Confusion is a prerequisite to enlightenment.
Enlightenment is a prerequisite to revelation.
Revelation without action makes no difference.




Posted By: mikefos on 10/07/10 03:03pm

More room for more stuff. I love to just throw the kayaks in the bed when not towing and have the 12 footers only hang out about a foot or two past the dropped tailgate. When towing, a rack on the rails and one on the cab keeps them away from the trailer front. And oh yea, the larger fuel tank . Besides, I get more exercise always parking out in the back 40 (gotta a crew cab too). Just swing 'er wide when making turns. And backing the TT is little more of a challenge in a tight spot, but I assume that will get easier as I do it more.


Mike, Kim, and Pepper (Min Pin security)
2012 Jayco Eagle Super Lite 308RETS, TST 507 TPMS
2010 Chevy 2500HD, Duramax/Allison, 2WD, Long Bed, Crew Cab, Duraflaps, AMP Bedstep
Equal-i-zer 1400/14K Hitch



Posted By: mosseater on 10/07/10 04:18pm

It isn't just about wheelbase. The F-250 I had for 13years had a 158" wheelbase (Super cab long bed) and the same configuration F-150 I currently drive has a 163" wheelbase, yet it will easily out manuever the '94 250 by a wide margin. Front end suspension configuration and geometry play a bigger role than just wheelbase. In the 250, I had to back up twice everywhere I went just to park. It dragged the front end around like a wounded animal. My alignment guy said it had the worst geometry ever produced in a truck. Withe the 150, I have occasionally had to do a bunch of steering to get the trailer backed in and end up in the weeds sometimes, because it's slower to respond compared to a shorter wheelbase, but not drastically so.


"It`s not important that you know all the answers, it`s only important to know where to get all the answers" Arone Kleamyck
"...An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it." Col. Jeff Cooper
Sunset Creek 298 BH



Posted By: surveyorjp on 10/07/10 06:06pm

I have had 5 long bed trucks, one short bed (or standard bed 6' 3" on a 2003 Ram 2500 quad cab), and one VERY short bed on a 2004 Dakota Quad cab. After the Dakota, I made up my mind to go back to a long bed. It's just more handy for hauling stuff, both for working purposes, and the gear we take camping with us.

Long bed for me.


2012 Dodge Grand Caravan. Popup shopping


Posted By: glazier on 10/07/10 07:11pm

I have owned both. They each have their strong points, hauling cargo the long bed hands down is the best choice. I would not flip a coin between the two when it comes to towing a fifth wheel, properly equiped trucks that is.


2014 Grand Design Reflection 337 RLS XPS Ribs
2015 Chevy 2500HD LTZ Duramax CC/SB/4X4
B&W Companion Slider


Posted By: SoCalDesertRider on 10/09/10 08:26am

With Ford Superduty F250/350 trucks, the SuperCab long bed is only 2" longer (both wheelbase and overall length) than a Crew Cab short bed. So, if you want the 8' bed length in a shorter truck, choose the SuperCab instead of the Crew Cab. If you're not regularly hauling full size adults in the rear seat, you will do fine with SuperCab. The SuperCab has plenty of storage room and holds children just fine.


05E350 6.0PSD
97F350DRW 7.3PSD 4x4 4.10 11' flatbed
98Ranger
69Bronco ATC250R CR500
20' BigTex flatbed carhauler
Callen Camper

92F350 CrewCab 4x4 351/C6
B&W TurnoverBall, Curt Magnum V
HD Springs Bilsteins,
285/75-16E BFG AT on 16x8 Stocktons
4.56's & LockRite rear


Posted By: ghekiere1 on 10/09/10 10:53pm

Lomg Box might be a little more stable, and a little longer wheel base might have a little bit better ride. Mine is a long box and I love it.


1997 2500 Power Wagon 8.0 Liter V-10 Long Box
Prodigy P3 Brake Controller
2010 Starcraft Autumn Ridge 297 BHS



Print  |  Close