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Topic: Anyone mount a Winegard "Carry Out" dish permanently ??

Posted By: Gregg C on 10/17/10 08:03pm

Anyone mount a Winegard "Carry Out" dish permanently ??
They sell for several hundred dollars less and appear to do the same as the antennas sold for permanent mounting.
What do you think ??


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Posted By: hottubkid on 10/17/10 08:07pm

I told my friend that I had a carryout and wanted to use it at a casino parking lot. He made me a mount for my ladder that if I unlock the locl on the mount I can remove it and place it within fifty foot of the motor home. They also sell mounts for the ladder for these


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Posted By: houtrz on 10/18/10 05:08am

What service do you have? Dish or DirecTV? I have a Dish dual tuner receiver and I haven't been able to get it to work. Now from I"ve been told, it isn't compatable. I have a new Carryout and basically a boat anchor. Wish they would have disclosed that to me before I shelled out the loot


Posted By: JohnandCara2 on 10/17/10 08:26pm

the Carry Out Model is not to be used mounted to a ladder due to the seals ,not being made for high speed water shielding. The mini-max stationary has the seals.


Posted By: hottubkid on 10/17/10 10:31pm

That's funny, Believe it is winegard that makes the ladder mount
check it out

http://www.amazon.com/Winegard-Carryout-Automatic-Satellite-GM-1518/dp/B001TIS3K6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1287376304&sr=8-1


Posted By: JIH on 10/17/10 11:45pm

The Winegard literature for the ladder mount says "use ladder mount for temporary or permanent installation of the Carry Out antenna".


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Posted By: diveman52 on 10/18/10 05:56am

houtrz wrote:

What service do you have? Dish or DirecTV? I have a Dish dual tuner receiver and I haven't been able to get it to work. Now from I"ve been told, it isn't compatable. I have a new Carryout and basically a boat anchor. Wish they would have disclosed that to me before I shelled out the loot

In the instructions for the carry out it tells you how to change the dip switches inside the unit to work with dish.

And yes I have my carry out installed in a semi permenite way. It stays on top the roof unless I need to move it because of a tree or something in the way.
The only difference between the carry out and the Mini Max is the mounting feet.
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Posted By: houtrz on 10/18/10 06:27am

diveman52. I've been on the phone with Dish many times, they blame Winegard, I've been on the phone with Winegard three times and they blame the Dish box. I ended up buying a new Dish box but later I was told that the Carryout will not work with a DUAL receiver Dish box. The SINGLE receiver box would work ok. If you have managed to get the Carryout to work with a dual Dish receiver, please let me know how you did it. I thought about selling the Carryout but didn't figure I could sell it for much


Posted By: Dennis37 on 10/18/10 06:32am

I have mine mounted with the ladder mount sold by wineguard. I ran the cables down the lader and under the M/H. I cary extra cables in case I cannot pick up a signal where I am parked. In that case it is a quick remove and set it on the ground.


Posted By: emiddleb on 10/18/10 07:38am

If you are on DirecTV then keep in mind the carry-out is a single LNB dish. You will be limited to only one Sat (the Primary) and not be able to get HD and many of the locals.

You need one of the 3-LNB Slimlines to get full programming on DirecTV (or one of the older 5-LNBs.)

The Carryout may be sufficient for your needs but you didn't specify which service, HD, etc.


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Posted By: hottubkid on 10/18/10 07:54am

For dish you need two leads and have to change some switches under the dome. For direct you need only one lead for most of them. Read the manual and then if you need it phone for winrgard is 800-788-4417. They most likely won't answer you right away but they will call you back. If you want to get rid of it cheap let me know my friend loves mine. Remember you have to beable to see the sat. Good luck




houtrz wrote:

What service do you have? Dish or DirecTV? I have a Dish dual tuner receiver and I haven't been able to get it to work. Now from I"ve been told, it isn't compatable. I have a new Carryout and basically a boat anchor. Wish they would have disclosed that to me before I shelled out the loot



Posted By: hottubkid on 10/18/10 07:58am

Mine works well with a dish 322 box which is also two recievers



houtrz wrote:

diveman52. I've been on the phone with Dish many times, they blame Winegard, I've been on the phone with Winegard three times and they blame the Dish box. I ended up buying a new Dish box but later I was told that the Carryout will not work with a DUAL receiver Dish box. The SINGLE receiver box would work ok. If you have managed to get the Carryout to work with a dual Dish receiver, please let me know how you did it. I thought about selling the Carryout but didn't figure I could sell it for much



Posted By: houtrz on 10/18/10 08:15am

hottubkid, how do you have yours wired up?

I set the dip switches and tried using one and then both cables. Not sure the what the deal is. I haven't messed with it in over a year but if I remember right, it would down load the guide and show good signal strengh on the signal strengh bar but when I would go to select a TV channel to watch, it would say "lost satellite signal". I would go back to the signal strengh meter and it would show good. 70% or so.


Posted By: JIH on 10/18/10 10:43am

Quote:

I haven't messed with it in over a year but if I remember right, it would down load the guide and show good signal strengh on the signal strengh bar but when I would go to select a TV channel to watch, it would say "lost satellite signal". I would go back to the signal strengh meter and it would show good. 70% or so.


I think the problem is that Dish uses 2 to 3 satellites and switches between them depending on which channel you pick. If you have a Dual receiver and tune them to channels that are on different satellites, then each receiver is trying to set the antenna to the correct satellite which just cannot work.


Posted By: Red Quad on 04/04/12 08:30pm

wildmanbaker wrote:

....... If you want to mount it permanently on the roof, a vent tube must be installed in the metal base to allow moisture to escape. If it is not vented, it will corrode the electronics



Is that found in any of Winegard's manual or literature?

Is there any problem leaving it on the roof for months at a time? (RV not moving)


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Posted By: hottubkid on 04/04/12 09:45pm

My friend made me a ladder mount so I can use it on the ladder or unlock it and put it anywere with in fifty feet of the coach.


Posted By: Maddawgs on 04/05/12 05:18am

houtrz wrote:

diveman52. I've been on the phone with Dish many times, they blame Winegard, I've been on the phone with Winegard three times and they blame the Dish box. I ended up buying a new Dish box but later I was told that the Carryout will not work with a DUAL receiver Dish box. The SINGLE receiver box would work ok. If you have managed to get the Carryout to work with a dual Dish receiver, please let me know how you did it. I thought about selling the Carryout but didn't figure I could sell it for much

Are you running two separate cables from the main and aux connections from the carryout directly to your dish vip211k receivers?
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Posted By: newxmar on 04/05/12 07:12am

Gregg C wrote:

Anyone mount a Winegard "Carry Out" dish permanently ??
They sell for several hundred dollars less and appear to do the same as the antennas sold for permanent mounting.
What do you think ??


I mounted a carry out on a rear bike rack (curbside location) with boards. When I have the rear of the coach toward the southwest it works fine with "dish network". (Also put two long mounting bolts to anchor the carryout plus recessed holes for the four feet.)

One problem started when the suitcase didn't receive 12 volt power and you could not hear or see (wirh cover off) it moving hunting for the "bird". A new cable from Wineguard fixed the problem. So---when it does not wotk be sure it is receiving 12 volt power. It may take a long time to home in on the signal. Wait!

A poster mentioned that water may get in it with driving in the rain. Think I will put a garbage bag over it when driving.




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Posted By: hottubkid on 04/05/12 07:33am

I have a dish net VIP 222 box and the carryout. It works with onetv in the coach and two tv's at home. In the coach with the carryout I have to watch one sat at a time.Different channels but same sat. I had to run two cables to the sat and the #1 lead had to go to the number one lead on the dish. The vip211 will also work but no two tv's on different channels at home with dish on the roof. Need help PM me.




Maddawgs wrote:

houtrz wrote:

diveman52. I've been on the phone with Dish many times, they blame Winegard, I've been on the phone with Winegard three times and they blame the Dish box. I ended up buying a new Dish box but later I was told that the Carryout will not work with a DUAL receiver Dish box. The SINGLE receiver box would work ok. If you have managed to get the Carryout to work with a dual Dish receiver, please let me know how you did it. I thought about selling the Carryout but didn't figure I could sell it for much

Are you running two separate cables from the main and aux connections from the carryout directly to your dish vip211k receivers?
Todd



Posted By: wildmanbaker on 04/05/12 08:24am

Red Quad,
No, I called the Winegard Tech line, and was told this.

* This post was edited 04/05/12 08:38am by wildmanbaker *


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Posted By: hottubkid on 10/18/10 11:22am

Each time I set it up. Meaning taking it from the house to the mh, I do not connect any cables from the dish to the box. I do a test switch. Then I connect the cables fron the dish to the box. Then I set the zip code and let it find 119. Then I do a test switch. The test switch has to have switch 64 on.This is done by the box and their are times I have to test the switch twice but as long as the box is in the MH all I usually have to do is change the zip code. When I bring it back into the house I have to do a test switch again. Hopes this helps or email me again Also remember that you need two cables and the main cable has to go to sat one







houtrz wrote:

hottubkid, how do you have yours wired up?

I set the dip switches and tried using one and then both cables. Not sure the what the deal is. I haven't messed with it in over a year but if I remember right, it would down load the guide and show good signal strengh on the signal strengh bar but when I would go to select a TV channel to watch, it would say "lost satellite signal". I would go back to the signal strengh meter and it would show good. 70% or so.



Posted By: BTLover on 11/05/10 10:22am

I got mine to work but I had to run both two cables from the Carryout to the dual receiver. It's a real PITA so I'm currently wishing for a permanently mounted dish specifically for DISH so there's no incompatibilities while the Carryout searches all the wrong satellites for a signal.

I was looking at the ladder mount, too, but if it can't be permanent then I might as well stick to my tripod on the ground.


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Posted By: jhilley on 10/01/11 08:31am

I contacted Winegard about leaving the Carryout attached to the ladder mount going down the road, especially asking if it was weather tight and could stand the force created moving down the road. They said there wasn't any problem with doing that, but were concerned that it be securely attached so as not to create a safety hazard.


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Posted By: peaches&cream on 10/01/11 08:47am

JohnandCara2 wrote:

the Carry Out Model is not to be used mounted to a ladder due to the seals ,not being made for high speed water shielding. The mini-max stationary has the seals.


We don't have "seals" in Ga. Only ones I have observed are on the west coast mostly on the Pacific Coast Hwy. Should not pertain to us.






Posted By: wildmanbaker on 10/01/11 11:39am

To run a DISH dual receiver with the carryout, the primary connection must go to the TV1/primary side of the receiver. The second port must go to the TV2/remote TV. If I remember correctly, the TV1 controls the sat. selection. TV2 can watch any channel, that the primary side is using.

The carryout can be mounted on the ladder. If you want to mount it permanently on the roof, a vent tube must be installed in the metal base to allow moisture to escape. If it is not vented, it will corrode the electronics


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