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F2fiddy

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Posted: 01/10/11 08:00pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Currently I own a 04 PSD and have experienced one to many repair costs. I know I will miss the diesel power but I am a weekend warrior with the occasional long haul. I want to trade in and go back to a gasser as I don't feel the current diesels are reliable and are to costly for me. I have been looking at the chevy 3500 6.0 vortec. I tow a Sundance 3300RLB gross is 13500. Dry is around 97000 so I am looking for any one with a similar configuration pulling with chevy's 6.0. Thanks for your help.

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You'd be better off with either a V-10 Ford or the 8.1 Chevy. that's quite a bit of trailer for a 6.0. I do know what you're talking about though. I still own both my F-150 5.4 and my 6.0 PSD F-250. I have given up towing with the diesel also because of high repair costs that occur on about every trip. IN 75,000 towing miles I've NEVER had a repair on the F-150. Good luck / Skip


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If you don't mind buying new, a '11 F-350 with the 6.2L gasser might be able to handle that. I think a 3/4 ton might be close to capacity with a 13,500 GVW in tow.


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I agree the V-10 is a better choice. Not sure how many if any 8.1's you will be able to find.


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You just have the wrong diesel. I have always had gassers but am pretty happy with my Dodge Cummins. I would get a Duramax,a Cummins or a 8.1 if you can find one


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GM quit making big blocks. 6.0 and the 6 speed tranny is the big gasser. I'm in the same boat but I now have the big block gasser. I don't how the 6.0 in 3500 does.

Never liked the high rpms on a small block. I always thought the maintenance was higher for a diesel. My old truck has around 190,000 racke up and I'm gonna throw a camper on it and head for the 49th state this summer.


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Weekend warrior and occasional long-haul, I can see going back to gas being a reasonable choice. However, I think you'd be very disappointed in the GM 6.0 towing that heavy of a trailer. As was mentioned, you have the "wrong" diesel, I think every other diesel out there is more reliable than the Ford 6.0, regardless of how many people love them. There are far too many that have had problems to ignore, as you're one of them.

The GM 8.1 and Ford V10 are both excellent gas engines.

If you want to stick with diesel but want to avoid all the emissions stuff then I'd look for:

2005-2007 Dodge Ram 5.9 - 4-speed auto is strong and reliable, but it is only a 4-speed. The G56 6-speed manual is great, if you don't mind shifting yourself.

2006 GM Duramax/Allison - 2006 was the first year of the 6-speed Allison and the last year without the additional emissions equipment.

1999-2003 Ford 7.3 PSD - Strong, reliable. The Ford 6.4 has proven reliable but the fuel mileage is as bad as a big-block gas V8.

Anyway, in my opinion if you want to tow happily with that trailer then you really need to stick with a big block or a diesel. The GM 6.0 would be a good choice for someone with a TC that got the 3500 for payload, but not a good choice for someone towing over 10,000lbs.


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The Ford 6.8L V10 is rock solid. However, your gas mileage will be.... low.


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I tow that much weight with our 30ft 5ver and ski boat with an '01 dodge 2500 v10 (8.0L) and it does well, although I've not gone through the mountains. I was tempted to buy a diesel, but also believe the maintenance and purchase cost was too high. Found a great deal on the truck because of the notoriously low fuel mileage, but small payoff as a daily driver not to have to pay for a diesel. The Chevy 8.1 will get a bit better mileage empty and run out great, but my opinion is the Dodge 8.0L will out pull it (Drove a chevy 8.1 for work). I know folks who have the ford v-10 and really like them but their not pulling quite as much and their mileage is in the same range as the Dodge. I've not had experience with the 6.0L Chevy, but a friend of mine had 2 of them of about the '04-'05 vintage and was terribly disappointed with the low pulling power and fuel mileage in the dodge v-10 range.
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I would like the V10 but Ford does not put it in the 350 or 250 anymore. 2010 was the last year and I cannot find one.

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