Smokey the reason I searched this subject is...I'm going to install several more of these outlets. Our TT came with one way up behind the tv mounted high up on the wall. I do carry a portable power pack for jump starts etc (has come in handy for other neighbors who woke up to dead Tow Vehicle batteries). The power pack allows me to charge cell phones etc..some of you laugh and say "If boon-docking I don't have a TV or Cell phone" but in reality we ALL have them and need to keep them charged for various reasons...medical emergencies, the kids need to reach us etc. A dead cell phone equals a brick. When the big quake hit Japan we were dry camping (or is it rv'ing) on a state beach along the Calif coast. Our cell phones blew up with calls at about midnight...Tsunami warnings along the beaches! In that case was nice to have phone contact and the ability to turn on the television to see the news via DC power (no geni's allowed after 8pm). Should I EVER find myself too tired to drive on....I will stop at Walmart to sleep, nowadays most cities have Municipal Code Ordinances which prohibit sleeping/camping at night in public places..I'm sure there are a few on here that have either been warned, asked to move on or cited for this. $$ ouch. Just my 2 cents...now to go install those outlets. Good Times!
I guess I am still living in the dark ages, we had only one outlet by the entrance door and it was totally sufficient for our needs, even after we bought cell phones and an AC/DC television set. Had a bunch of AC outlets and used them when we could use the generator. Getting new trailer and maybe I will find a need for a bunch of DC plug-ins and maybe I won't; only time will tell.
The current 12v plugs next to the antenna connection is a hold-over from the "old days". The television antenna needs 12 volts to the amplifier head and since the wiring is already there, the 12 volt plug is installed. That plug if you were to measure it, is not the same size as a standard 12 volt automotive socket. If memory serves me correctly, it is somewhat bigger. In order to place more 12 volt sockets around the trailer, additional wiring would have to run, dedicated for just those plugs, i.e., they shouldn't be jumpered off existing lighting wiring because the loads that could be placed on a plug's output could be substantially higher than those of an incandescent circuit leading to a in-wall fire.
Basically, you won't find more than the one plug next to the TV antenna's power supply because it would cost more to install them by the manufacturers just to please the relatively few people that desire them. Just as you won't find telephone jacks/hookups in most new rigs...there just aren't enough users to justify the manufacturer's cost in installing them...they can save a few bucks/trailer (mounts up over thousands of trailers) and most people don't even know they are gone.
Personally, for the "camping" we do, I don't miss either the phone jacks or the 12 volt socket. In fact my new truck and my '08 Jeep have inverters installed with 110v jacks in the vehicle. I suspect it won't be a lot longer before 12 volt sockets in vehicles are "obsolete" and non-existent.
Have you ever noticed that in most modern 5th wheels there is only one 12 volt plug? It’s WAY up in the front (on most units) with the TV amplifier. I’ve found that some cell phone chargers don’t fit in that 12 volt plug either. It’s forced me to install one under my TV area not only for 12 volt access but to allow us to use a small inverter to run the TV while on the road for over nights when “dry docking”. Additionally, I’ve found the need to install another one in the rear bedroom for the kids that gives them the ability to charge the electronics they feel they need for traveling.
I wonder why the newer models don’t have such luxuries like additional 12 volt plugs? An older travel trailer we owned had them through out. I’m told by the dealer that most RVers don’t “dry camp” any more and pull from one plug camp ground to another. Hmmmm… I know “to each his own” but seriously?!?! I’m thinking that once in a while every RVer finds themselves parked in a Wal-Mart or rest area over night. We sure miss our convenient 12 volt plugs does any one else?
Years ago we did have 12v plugs and u are right not anymore. As for boondocking; generators, inverters, and solar panels fit that bill.
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When our original radio died, I replaced it with a smaller marine (with weather band!) unit, leaving room on the panel for a voltmeter, USB charging connection and a 12v power plug we use for cell phones, the Sirius tuner from the car, etc.
The 12v power plug is one of these, much smaller and easier to connect-disconnect than the cigarette lighter version. You do have to build charge cords to match, but the cost is minimal.
I get a kick out of the 12 volt plug is dead in rv-campers yet I have 3 of them in my truck and all are in use when on a trip. I also put 2 extra in our camper. We are to poor for an rv lol. My wifes I phone is always on charge, truck or camper.
We just used our new 5th wheel this past weekend (boondocking it) and I said a couple of times i wish we had the 12v outlets. Our TC has 4 of them. I know we will be installing at least one or two. We do alot of boondocking/dry camping also.
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