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Anyone have a southwind 32vs with air bags. How do they help? Do they make coach ride smoother ? I have 2006 32vs bangs alot on semi to rough roads.

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southwind 32 wrote:

Anyone have a southwind 32vs with air bags. How do they help? Do they make coach ride smoother ? I have 2006 32vs bangs alot on semi to rough roads.


With a Ford chassis you got what you got. A very strong chassis for its weight...and a chassis ( and suspension) that rides rougher than a cob and no way around it. Enjoy!


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Before spending the money on air bags I would first suggest getting your coach weighed. When you have the front and rear axle weights, refer to the load inflation table of your tire manufacturer. Adjust your tire pressure to correspond with the pressure reflected on load inflation table for the axle weight your tires will be carrying.

Most likely it will be around 70psi plus or minus for your size of coach, mine requires 80psi but it's longer and heavier.

Then I would suggest replacing your front shocks to Koni FSD shocks, cost around $150 each, but they seem to work well on the Ford F53 chassis for eliminating the harsh ride.

There are 2 or 3 forum members who tried the FSD's without realizing any ride improvement. Many others however have realized a vast improvement in ride comfort.

Good luck and keep us posted on your progress


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Posted: 03/21/11 07:50am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Hi All.

I know, eveyone hates a story about a freind of a freind and their story. Espically wiht-out any facts. But I really do have a very close Friend with a Motorhome with a F-53 Chassis. He put new Tires on his Motorhome. Then had a Front End Aligment. Everyting under the front end looked good. By the way, he owns a Tire & Repair Shop. He installed KYB Shocks all the way around. He already had Air-Lift #5000 lb Air-Bags on his Rear. So he still wasn't happy with the way it drove or rode. And no way was he going to buy Koni's, Period. Yes, he knows all about konis, as he use to Build Engines and Race Cars. He said that Konis are great for Racing Cars, but not worth the money for Motorhomes. So he added the Air-Lift #5000 lb Air-Bags on the Front of his Motorhome as well. He told me, that it mad all the differance in the world in how his Motorhome handles and rides now. Yes, I got the chance to drive his Motorhome, before and after. He was correct, it made a Huge differance. I was even so impressed by what he did to his F-53. That mine will be set up like his very soon. I have nothing to say either way about Koni's, myself, except that I won't pay the price for them. Not after seeing for myself, what his F-53 is like driving now. Even Towing or in somme pretty good wind. I'm sold. Each to there own. Good Luck. Happy Travels. Dan & Jill


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Posted: 03/21/11 08:20am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I'm one of those that spent good money on KONI's and would have been better off going to the casino with that money.

I just installed air bags on the front (had them on the rear) of my F53, I have only 30 miles on them so it is too early to tell. New snow storm came in, won't be driving the sled anytime soon. Sincerely hope they do the trick.

* This post was edited 03/21/11 08:37am by topflite51 *


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I put a blue ox tt2400 rear trak arm (get the bolt on frame bracket instead of the frame clamp) and Firestone air bags on my new 2011 Southwind 32VS. I installed the bags and a pump that I can control with a wireless controller from the driver seat. The Trak arm greatly improved tail wag and the air bags are individually adjustable so I can compensate for uneven loading. They really can eliminate side to side rocking depending how firm you want the ride. I find myself using them to correct for road crown that has me constantly dipping to the right. I'll put an 10 extra pounds in the right and I find I'm not always fighting to bring the coach back on the road. I also put this same setup on a 2010 Vista 26P (which I traded for the 32VS when Winnebago was unable to fix some defects to my satisfaction) and found it was really necessary on that coach because the fresh water tank was located mostly on one side creating this ever changing side to side loading plus the coach had to cargo capacity at all. I have to say that even the new Ford chassis is******in my opinion to Freightliner. They have excessive wander and the coach manufactures don't allow enough capacity for cargo so the springs and axles end up loaded to the limits. In both case the coach felt very unstable in any avoidance maneuver until I added air bags.

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You can read other threads about rough ride fixes. Search Kelderman and you will find all kinds of info. I added air bags to a Ford-450 and it did help stability but not much for ride. I added Koni FSD's to a F-53 and thought they improved the ride. I agree on the blue ox trac bar. I installed Kelderman air ride which replaced the F-53 springs on front with softer ones and hung the bags on spring hangers. Fantastic imporvement on my 2012 Winn Vista 30T. Pricey but worth it to me. So you can improve the ride a great deal if you want to invest. I agree that you start with getting the tire inflation right and then go on from there if needed.

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IN ORDER:

Weight the axles when loaded as you will be going down the road. Go to your tire manufacturer's load chart to determine the correct minimum PSI. Put in that PSI plus, perhaps 5 PSI so when your wife stops at Walmart for a power shopping trip you don't have to stop and add air.

Post what your actual weights are vs GAWR on the sticker for your coach. NO shock will overcome an underloaded axle. For a shock to make any difference, the coach has to "deflect" on a bump. If the springs are underloaded, this won't happen. That is why some people love certain shocks and other with the same chassis and shock don't see the difference.

I had this discussion with a gentleman here on RV.net with a spring suspended coach. I didn't do an adequate job of explaining the need to weight and compare actual weight with GAWR. He kept thinking it was shocks that made his ride too stiff. So, I removed the shocks completely and we went for a ride. You guessed it, no spring deflection, so no change in ride. Hard to blame the shocks, since they were on the work bench back at the shop.

Bottom line, get all the facts together before you pull out your wallet. We can help, if we have all the information.


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I'm one of those that spent good money on KONI's and would have been better off going to the casino with that money.


I certainly do hope the outcome would have been better

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