barbandwayne wrote: Or, Austin, you are passing thru the neighborhood and you see carts blocks from the store in someones yard. People are so inconsiderate. Its like they think those carts are there for them to take their purchases home in. They don't care that the cost of those carts is being added to your grocery bill.
They do that here too; there's low income housing up the street from our shop in an otherwise semi-industrial zone. Pretty soon, they pile up, and we call Winco to have someone load up the cart-mass.
What gets me is the very same people walk right past the cache of carts to go back to the same store, yet they'll grab yet another cart and bring it back. Is it really THAT HARD to take a cart from the stash on the street and go back to the store with it?!?
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barbandwayne wrote: Or, Austin, you are passing thru the neighborhood and you see carts blocks from the store in someones yard. People are so inconsiderate. Its like they think those carts are there for them to take their purchases home in. They don't care that the cost of those carts is being added to your grocery bill.
They do that here too; there's low income housing up the street from our shop in an otherwise semi-industrial zone. Pretty soon, they pile up, and we call Winco to have someone load up the cart-mass.
What gets me is the very same people walk right past the cache of carts to go back to the same store, yet they'll grab yet another cart and bring it back. Is it really THAT HARD to take a cart from the stash on the street and go back to the store with it?!?
Oregon actually has made it an arrestable crime now to take a shopping cart from a store lot, but on the flip side at the same time fines the stores if their carts are found away from their buildings.
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There was a grocery store in Memphis that actually hired someone to drive thru the neighborhood and collect their carts. I like that Oregon law, but fining a store if their carts are caught off their property??? Doesn't make a lot of sense. The store is loosing 2 times.
barbandwayne wrote: There was a grocery store in Memphis that actually hired someone to drive thru the neighborhood and collect their carts. I like that Oregon law, but fining a store if their carts are caught off their property??? Doesn't make a lot of sense. The store is loosing 2 times.
Pretty much it puts the bill for keeping someone on dollar to constant search the neighborhoods for carts on the stores back.
No one said Oregon law was written by people with the elevator going to the top floor .
Leave it to Oregon, the same lawmakers who decided to enforce school zone speed limits to 15 MPH 24/7. That stupidity got voted back down later after people were getting cited for driving faster than 15 after midnight, during weekends and holidays, etc. when kids are obviously nowhere around.
That is a silly law. How can a store keep tabs on shopping carts packed off by customers? Are the stores supposed to send security after anyone walking with a cart down the sidewalk away from the store's lot? If there are fines to be levied, it should be against whomever is taking the carts.
adondo wrote: Leave it to Oregon, the same lawmakers who decided to enforce school zone speed limits to 15 MPH 24/7. That stupidity got voted back down later after people were getting cited for driving faster than 15 after midnight, during weekends and holidays, etc. when kids are obviously nowhere around.
That is a silly law. How can a store keep tabs on shopping carts packed off by customers? Are the stores supposed to send security after anyone walking with a cart down the sidewalk away from the store's lot? If there are fines to be levied, it should be against whomever is taking the carts.
Most stores in Oregon have rigged their carts with lock wheels now so that if you try to take them off the lot, they lock up.
Most of the stores pay into new companies that sprung up that drive around town on cart hunt to collect the carts before a citizen calls them in and the state gets into the fining business.
There is a reason why Oregon has a name for being a business unfriendly state.
In watching shows like "I almost got away with it" I notice they always show cops pointing guns at someone but they never shoot.
The cops may pull over a vehicle and order the driver out of the car, yelling at the perp and holding guns with both hands pointed directly at him. Now, if the perp happens to run on foot, they just let him run. Worse, sometimes he'll just drive off leading to a high-speed chase. Nobody shoots. Today I saw one where they had erected road blocks, but the joy-rider just drove right thru them, of course with many cops standing there with their guns in hand, and nobody shot, didn't even try to shoot out the tires.
Is this for real? What are the guns for.. to scare the perp or to be used only in defense? I don't get it.
2oldman wrote: In watching shows like "I almost got away with it" I notice they always show cops pointing guns at someone but they never shoot.
The cops may pull over a vehicle and order the driver out of the car, yelling at the perp and holding guns with both hands pointed directly at him. Now, if the perp happens to run on foot, they just let him run. Worse, sometimes he'll just drive off leading to a high-speed chase. Nobody shoots. Today I saw one where they had erected road blocks, but the joy-rider just drove right thru them, of course with many cops standing there with their guns in hand, and nobody shot, didn't even try to shoot out the tires.
Is this for real? What are the guns for.. to scare the perp or to be used only in defense? I don't get it.
You might consider how much is staged and how much is "real".
Cops don't normally shoot out tires like they do in the movies or on TV. I would guess that real cops might have their gun aimed and ready just in case the suspect is also armed and to let him know he won't be getting the first shot.
Other factors come into play, such as how many innocent bystanders could be hit in the crossfire.
2oldman wrote: In watching shows like "I almost got away with it" I notice they always show cops pointing guns at someone but they never shoot.
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I saw one where they had erected road blocks, but the joy-rider just drove right thru them, of course with many cops standing there with their guns in hand, and nobody shot, didn't even try to shoot out the tires.
Is this for real? What are the guns for.. to scare the perp or to be used only in defense? I don't get it.