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Posted: 05/25/11 07:06pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Has anyone on the forum installed the hydrogen system made and produced by Mary Meadows in Arizona? How much increase in mileage did you experience? Any problems with the system? I saw where the cost is $2,500.00.

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"Meadows installed the system on her car, a 1977 Cadillac El Dorado.

"That car went from 8 miles per gallon to 32," she said.""

Yeah right! I'd need to see a report from an accredited independent test lab before I spent $2.50, let alone $2500.

Search on Hydrogen or HHO or Brown's gas on the forum and see what you come up with.
If any of these systems actually worked, the inventor would be a billionaire by now!
Electricity generated by the cars alternator is used to produce hydrogen. Generally speaking 70% of the energy used in production is returned when the Hydrogen is burned.
Net result is actually LOWER mpgs. Mythbusters tried it on a RAV4 and lost around 2mpg.


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Reputable scientific study shows it takes more energy to produce hydrogen than is produced by using it with todays technology.


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Posted: 05/25/11 07:55pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Save your money, 'Mary' does not have a clue, and it is a scam!!




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snake oil.Those systems were flying around BC and alberta in 1996-98 or so
waste of time and money.The ole if its too good to be true it aint true
The thing is a scam end of story

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Posted: 05/25/11 07:57pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Pretty sure Mythbusters did this and busted it..

However, I have seen many forums who talk about a 10-25% increase in gas mileage.

So lets just say you do in fact get a 25% increase in mileage

If you drive 5000 miles a year in an RV getting 6 MPG you will use 833 gallons for a total cost of $3,333 in fuel (at $4/gal)

With a 25% increase in mileage you will be getting 7.5 MPG and will use 666 gallons for a total cost of $2,666 in fuel (at $4/gal) which saves you $600 a year.

This will take you 4.2 years to recover your cost of the system with those numbers.

However, IF this was a viable solution then it would be a major mass produced system by some company with patents and stuff and likely would be at the very least an available option on new cars.

I'm sorry, but in my opinion this is nothing more than snake oil. People making claims of great gas mileage increases are either:
1: Trying to sell you something
2: Trying to justify the money they have wasted


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Hi,

I built a HHO generator for about $20 in scrap parts, and it does make bubbles. By adding 1/4 pound of baking soda to the water, it becomes really high PH, so it is hydrogen rich, and conducts power easy. It will make a lot of bubbles, and will use about 40 amps at 12 volts.

Now I am to scared to hook it up to my new car, and the motorhome engine is to difficult to get at if I need to rebuild it or break a rod or something, so I am not going to try it with that engine either. So what to do?

Yes I have read on the internet about people getting 32 MPG with a fuel injected 80's 4 cylinder Camry, but not 32 MPG with a carburated Cadilac. That is a bit of a streach, and if they are willing to lie about that then they probably will lie about everything else.

They might be quoting a MPG meter, and every once in a while, when coasting, the MPG meter reads 32 MPG for a couple of secconds, then goes back to 12 MPG. And a good tune up, and running the engine lean will improve the MPG from 7 to 12.

Yes I also saw a video on the internet of a guy who made several of these HHO uints for his company vans, and claims he got about 15% better mileage. He also demonstrated the unit, using a water bottle and set it on a sandbag, filled it with bubbles from his HHO unit, and lit it with a BBQ lighter. It sailed across the soccor field, and left the picture. I think the inventer thought the water bottle would only fly about 100 feet, but it took off more than 600'.

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skipnchar wrote:

Reputable scientific study shows it takes more energy to produce hydrogen than is produced by using it with todays technology.


I worked in a refinery for twenty seven years and the first unit I had to learn to operate made 98% pure hydrogen, about 50 thousand scf/day. You this gasoline and diesel is expensive to make? Hydrogen require a tremendous amount of energy. Even if you can separate the hydrogen atoms from water (which we did) the byproduct it CO and Co2 which has to be removed with potassium hydroxide. Better have a BIG trunk to haul around the catacarb. towers. It's a big time hoax!


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well they can install it in my rv and I can report to you all. I live close

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Ask the good doctor what the results were when she submitted her system to the EPA under their low cost mileage improvement testing program for inventors. Anyone that shows a legitimate mileage increase without screwing up the emissions in those tests will become very wealthy.


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