Hi, I have a question regarding tow weight. I own a 2008 Ford Diesel f-250 with a turbo, short wheel base and currently tow a tango 5th wheel. According to the charts on the ford website the tows 12.500 i am wanting to upgrade to an elk ridge 5th wheel that weighs14,075 lbs gvwr. Will my ford diesel handle this without hurting anything. Thank you in advance
I would say the overload will shorten your truck's life. Depending on what insurance company you have it may in case of an accident cause them to not pay.
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bldrbuck wrote: I would say the overload will shorten your truck's life. Depending on what insurance company you have it may in case of an accident cause them to not pay.
Why would his insurance care if the rig is properly tagged for the weight and he does goes over axle or tire ratings.
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The 14075 would be a gross number, how often do we get to that number??? depends I guess. The truck will have no problem, probly the same as the 12500lber, 1600lbs isn't much difference, you probably wouldnt even notice. I also don't think you would be over on the axle weights or the tire weights, the important numbers IMHO... BUT, (dealing with insurance companies daily) I could see an insurance company denying a claim due to the overload.
The problem the OP is going to have is his truck's GVWR/payload capacity, not just the tow rating. A 5er with a 14k gross is definitely 1-ton or more territory due to the pin weight.
The big thing to check is RAW. The truck will tow it fine, probably stop fine too, but you are getting close to the CVWR and I'm sure over the RAWR too. We had to get a dually as the 250 and 350 had the same CVWR.
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The Diesel will handle it just fine but the truck will be overloaded. Probably the BIGGEST concern is that the pin weight will more than likely be over your trucks payload rating when you also take into consideration other items in the truck like passengers, cargo, hitch, AND the loaded PIN weight. Check the door post for the GVWR and payload of your truck. If it doesn't list the payload (lots of older models do not) then weigh the truck and subtract the result from the GVWR to see how much additional weight the truck can carry.
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Empty truck weight is likely 7500 lbs, before hitch, passengers, other cargo and pin weight are added.
Truck GVWR is likely 10,000 lbs.
10,000 minus 7500 = 2500 lbs payload capacity.
The loaded pin weight of the trailer, by itself, not considering passengers, hitch and other cargo in the truck, will put the truck over the GVWR by 300 lbs or so, assuming 14K loaded trailer weight and 20% pin weight. Further add 200-300 lbs for hitch, 300-600 lbs for passengers, unknown weight for other cargo, etc, etc. The truck will be well over the GVWR once all loaded up.
Empty rear axle weight of truck is likely 3000 lbs, before hitch, other cargo and pin weight are added.
With 2800 lbs of pin weight and 200-300 lbs for the hitch, the truck will reach it's rear axle weight rating before any other cargo or passengers are added to the truck.
Your truck does not have sufficient payload and rear tire/wheel/spring capacities to carry 2800 lbs of pin weight, plus hitch, plus passengers, plus other cargo in the truck.
You need to choose a trailer with a loaded pin weight of 2000 lbs or less and even then you will be very close to or over the GVWR of the truck but at least you will be under the RGAWR and tire/wheel/spring capacities.
My combination is very similar to what you are looking at. Truck handles the set up ok but does need either air bags or Timbrens to level out the squat. I'm slightly over the rated weights for axle and gross combined but no where near the legal weights. The combination works for me.
Bill1374 wrote: My combination is very similar to what you are looking at. Truck handles the set up ok but does need either air bags or Timbrens to level out the squat. I'm slightly over the rated weights for axle and gross combined but no where near the legal weights. The combination works for me.
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If you're over the rear axle weight rating, you're over the legal weight. The rear axle/tire/wheel weight rating IS the legal weight limit for any vehicle.
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