smkettner
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With the wizard I think you might find the existing two batteries are fine.
The difference in charging will be amazing.
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It will work all sorts of ways as long as they are all connected.
The inverter at the entertainment centre can be at the end of a line from the DC panel battery lugs or in the middle between new batteries and panel or just at the end from the new batteries and the new batteries to the panel and either way both battery to converter sets of wires have to be on a path to the DC panel battery lugs.
If the inverter is on the lugs too that's three sets of wires in those lugs which will only hold a certain fatness of wires. You may have to invent some joining lug things extended from the existing lugs.
You can draw a picture of ways to do it that get you the least amount of wire in total for your available routes. You will have longer wire routes than if you could bank all the batteries together, but since you can't do that, this will get you there but with more line loss but that is much better than nothing!
The lighter sort of loads on the inverter you plan (TV etc) will not be a problem on longer DC wires so it is no big deal to have the inverter that far away from its supplying batteries as it would be with a big inverter running a microwave.
the PSW inverter could be overkill for just running a TV etc. My cheapo MSW 400w and 150w do that work just fine. PSW is expensive and more of a specialty requirement for a few certain items that need it.
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BFL13, good info. Thanks. In reality, since the two new batts will be in the middle, both wire runs will be minimal, about 3 ft. to the inverter at the entertainment center, and about the same to the DC panel, so the voltage drop or line loss should be minimal, espcially if I use large wires, probably will use #8 or larger.
Regarding the PSW vs the MSW, I was under the impression that I needed the PSW to run a TV and sat receiver, but maybe that's not the case (big savings there). What if I was also to plug in my laptop, might that work on MSW also or would it require a PSW?
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I only have MSW inverters and run the microwave, toaster, kettle, TV, DVD, VCR, laptop, cell phone charger, and powered 2.1 speakers for the entertainment centre with them no problems.
some say they get lines on their TVs or something with MSW vs PSW. I only get lines on the TV when certain things are running at the same time. not everything. I can't say if that would not hapoen with PSW. Who cares? it only lasts while that thing is also running.
Others will chime in and insist you need PSW. There are many threads on this topic over the years try the Search. All I know is I don't need any stinkin PSW 
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The Progressive Dynamics 9100 with the optional CHARGE WIZARD (Or the 9200 which has it built in) is, in my not very humble opinion based on hours and hours of internet searching.. Just about the best converter you can possibly buy.. NOTE: there are some others as good, none better.
That said 2 hours is NOT long enough to fully charge the batteries, but if you have enough (Let's see 60 amps, that's enough for two G-27's) and you don't take 'em down too far you can hit 90% that fast.
NOTE: the plug on the converter may be a 20 amp (One of the blades is sideways like this |- instead of parallel like this || )
I built a simple "Adapter" 15/20 amp outlet (From my junk box) with box and cover plate, Appliance cord (15 amp) and it's good, The unit only draws 10 amps tops. (I used to run it off a 10 amp breaker)
NOTE: I have teh 9180.. it has the 20 amp plug, you the 9160 so I'm not sure you will need to do that.
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I had noticed some charging bricks seemed to run extra hot on MSW. And the lines on the tv screen went away when I swapped to a PSW. Otherwise all my stuff ran on MSW just fine. Yes PSW is more money but a small one is not a months salary.
GoPower 300w PSW $160
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smkettner wrote:I had noticed some charging bricks seemed to run extra hot on MSW. And the lines on the tv screen went away when I swapped to a PSW. Otherwise all my stuff ran on MSW just fine. Yes PSW is more money but a small one is not a months salary.
GoPower 300w PSW $160 I have one of these, works great.
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mena661 wrote:smkettner wrote:I had noticed some charging bricks seemed to run extra hot on MSW. And the lines on the tv screen went away when I swapped to a PSW. Otherwise all my stuff ran on MSW just fine. Yes PSW is more money but a small one is not a months salary.
GoPower 300w PSW $160 I have one of these, works great.
Saw this online at the xantrec site, seems like a really good price for a 600W and it states that it is a "true sine wave". Does that mean it has a pure sine wave vs a modified sine wave? Should be plenty watts vs a 300w which might be just enough. This way I'm sure because when I jump to the 100W unit, the price quadruples.
http://www.boatandrvaccessories.com/PROWATTSW600.htm
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Yes that is sine wave. As you add wattage the 12v connection gets bigger and the inverter needs to be closer to the battery. But if you are going to plug the main cord into the inverter it is not a big deal. That inverter should serve you fine.
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thanks, might order that soon. Now, if I plug the shore cord directly/indirectly into it, but throw the breakers to cut off the MW, AC, Fridge and converter, does that also cut off my 12V circuits that I need for light and fridge monitor, etc.?
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