SuperDutyMan wrote: Wow....of the three COE campgrounds we go to the most,in 10 years I've never seen a camp host do anything but camp!They will work the booth once in awhile,and are always friedly,but I've never seen one say anything to anyone.There have been times (like 2 weeks ago) where the 9 "Beverly Hillbillies" across from us,(camped next to the host)just did what ever they wanted and he didn't say a word....I always thought ,camp host was just another term for "free camping"
We've been at 3 COE campgrounds in the past 2 months and I have to agree that we've seen the campground hosts and volunteers only function as clerical and/or maintenance staff. The rangers patrol the grounds a couple of times a day and were there to perform serious maintenance once when needed, but I've never seen a volunteer speak to a camper other than at the office.
Maybe someone who has hosted at a COE CG will correct me, but I believe they have to "bid" for their jobs, rather than volunteer. I also suspect that the rules they have to abide by are much more rigid that those I, and others, have to follow at state parks. They get paid, we do not. They frequently do admin type work, we most often do not. It's two separate types of jobs. Both are very valuable to the point that if it weren't for volunteers and folks at COE type parks, there wouldn't be any place to go RVing other than private parks and boondocking.
So, I guess since we are generally villifying the OP, I should say that he is totally wrong....."new" has nothing to do with it.
There is a certain percentage of campers, hosts and rangers who have authority/power trip issues, just as there's aertain percentage campers, hosts and rangers who can deal with the rules with a big dose of common sense.
But "new" and "old" has nothing to do with it. Shees man, I swear ;-)
The first thing I do when we get to the camp ground is teach our dog the parameters of our site. Once I show him what to expect he stays. I do not allow my dogs to wander. When we leave the site we put him on a leash - mostly because of all the other dogs running around with no one watching them.
The parks we frequent either have really good hosts who are there to help or hosts that don't care about anything they are there for the free parking and set up.
One hostess really endeared herself to us and we miss her. She was headed for New Mexico last time we saw her.
By the way, I train our dog to the yard at home too and he don't step outside the parameters I trained him to respect.
What does this have to do with following the rules???? Rules say on a leash..........
Lemons750 wrote: The first thing I do when we get to the camp ground is teach our dog the parameters of our site. Once I show him what to expect he stays. I do not allow my dogs to wander. When we leave the site we put him on a leash - mostly because of all the other dogs running around with no one watching them.
The parks we frequent either have really good hosts who are there to help or hosts that don't care about anything they are there for the free parking and set up.
One hostess really endeared herself to us and we miss her. She was headed for New Mexico last time we saw her.
By the way, I train our dog to the yard at home too and he don't step outside the parameters I trained him to respect.
Walking my leashed dog through the loops he's been attacked several times by unleashed lap dogs that should have thought better of it and their owners as well.
My job as a camp host is to inform the guests of the rules,(some of which I personally disagree) not enforce them but there are always those that think the rules are for the other guy. My favorite was the guy who drove through two loops to get to my site complaining about loud music when there is also a rule about no vehicular traffic allowed after quiet time. This was 10 minutes after quiet time started and the loudest thing I heard when I walked down there was a baby balling.
As a camp host I've had more "Thank You's" than complaints and those I did receive were from rule breakers.
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Lemons750 wrote: The first thing I do when we get to the camp ground is teach our dog the parameters of our site. Once I show him what to expect he stays. I do not allow my dogs to wander. When we leave the site we put him on a leash - mostly because of all the other dogs running around with no one watching them.
The parks we frequent either have really good hosts who are there to help or hosts that don't care about anything they are there for the free parking and set up.
One hostess really endeared herself to us and we miss her. She was headed for New Mexico last time we saw her.
By the way, I train our dog to the yard at home too and he don't step outside the parameters I trained him to respect.
mostly because of all the other dogs running around with no one watching them. And this goes over okay with the hosts?? What type of CG... private? USFS? BLM ? COE ? Other ??
I just got an email from a camp host friend who approached a camp site to greet the campers and was greeted by two large dogs (Pit bull and German Shepard) coming at her full bore...she's not afraid of dogs but she was almost bitten today. She asked the camper to leash the dogs. He said they were under voice command. It was HER voice yelling "SIT" and her body position that stopped those dogs.. not his. He wasn't close enough to stop them via a voice command. He had two choices... leash them now or leave. This is a concessed camp ground. The hosts carry more weight than a volunteer host. If he hadn't leashed his dogs...she'd have called the enforcement officer. He would have been given a $$$ citation... and had to leave anyway. If she had been bitten... he'd have lost possession of the dog that bit her.
Now... is it worth it to you not to leash your dog when the rules say... LEASH YOUR DOG?
I always stay on the road and call to the people inside the camp site... Hi, I'm your host. May I talk to you? I did that once and a large dog bolted out of the tent and charged me. I had not set foot in their camp site. I was on the road.
If you don't want to follow the rules...Go camp somewhere else. The forest is a very large place.
BTW... I am one of the hosts that are there to help everyone enjoy their campground. I'll make you a pot of coffee if you forgot to bring some. I'll let you cook on my grill if your George Foreman won't run on your cigarette lighter inverter. I'll help you jump your battery to get it going. I'll loan you matches, marshmellow tongs and paper plates. I'll even let you plug your camera, cell phone and IPod into my electric (because I'm the only electric there is.) I'll post the weather report from my internet satellite connection on the front windshield so you can see what the weather is going to be. I'll WATCH your dog at my campsite so you can go to town or go hiking on a 100 deg day... and lots lots more. Just leash your dog.
Lemons750 wrote: The first thing I do when we get to the camp ground is teach our dog the parameters of our site. Once I show him what to expect he stays. I do not allow my dogs to wander. When we leave the site we put him on a leash - mostly because of all the other dogs running around with no one watching them.
another dog owner giving dog owners a bad rep cause s/he doesn't think the rules apply to her/him.
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