RV.Net Open Roads Forum: Engine Noise When Going Uphill - UPDATE

RV Blog

  |  

RV Sales

  |  

Campgrounds

  |  

RV Parks

  |  

RV Club

  |  

RV Buyers Guide

  |  

Roadside Assistance

  |  

Extended Service Plan

  |  

RV Travel Assistance

  |  

RV Credit Card

  |  

RV Loans

Open Roads Forum Already a member? Login here.   If not, Register Today!  |  Help

Newest  |  Active  |  Popular  |  RVing FAQ Forum Rules  |  Forum Help and Support  |  Contact

Search:   Advanced Search

Search only in Class A Motorhomes

Open Roads Forum  >  Class A Motorhomes

 > Engine Noise When Going Uphill - UPDATE

This Topic Is Closed  |  Print Topic  |  Post New Topic  | 
Page of 6  
Next
Sponsored By:
RVontheMoon

USA

New Member

Joined: 01/27/2011

View Profile



Posted: 07/10/11 06:32pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I previously posted a question about a noise from my engine that would occur when going uphill:

http://www.rv.net/forum/index.cfm/fuseaction/thread/tid/25025157.cfm

Had to leave it parked for a bit until we finally got it into a shop in Grants pass. A lot of you had some great suggestions as to what it could be but here's what they said was the issue..

First off, two of our spark plugs were dead, all the sp wires were burned up. Apparently they were the original plugs and wires from when it was manufactured (1992) Put a new set on, still had the noise, they did a compression test on all four cylinders, no reading, indicates internal engine damage. Sooo, they said we should replace the entire engine ($9,000+) or they can just replace all four cylinders ($5,000+) And of course once they get into taking the engine apart with it being so old, things will break or come apart and jack up the price more, they said the ac system will probably be damaged during this and need replacement.

It will drive until it just finally dies. Obviously, it isn't going anywhere anymore. I'm a bit skeptical as to this being the issue, there are only 30,000 miles on it. It was fully inspected before we bought it from a dealership last year. And they didnt test for anything else. Is a second opinion the right way to go?? I'm scared to drive it anywhere else now though...

txdutt

Parker CO

Senior Member

Joined: 11/13/2005

View Profile



Posted: 07/10/11 06:39pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

not sure how they would "replace" the cylinders, you should be able to find a used 454 motor that's been tested/certified and have it replaced...labor would still run quite a chunk though...couple of grand at least..


2011 Chevy Silverado 1500 Crew Cab LT 4x4
2009 Jeep Wrangler Sahara Unlimited
2005 Itasca Sunrise 38J Workhorse W24 Chassis
U.S. Navy 1978-1986

ScottG

Bothell Wa.

Senior Member

Joined: 02/25/2005

View Profile


Offline
Posted: 07/10/11 06:39pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

They can't just replace 4 cyl. It just doesn't work that way. If there's a problem with the head then they could do something like that but most of this just doesn't make sense.
Didn't you say previously that this was a 454? I don't believe for a second that there was "no reading" from 4 cyl's. Even if the head gasket or other important part is gone it will have some compression and I don't believe it would climb Grants pass on only the remaining 4 cyl.
I would go to someone else.


Scott, Grace and Wesly
2003 Dodge 3500 4x4, 6 speed Cummins (lightly bombed),
2004 Forest River 25RKS many, many mods.
H0NDA eu2000i

K Charles

Connecticut

Senior Member

Joined: 03/06/2010

View Profile



Good Sam RV Club Member

Offline
Posted: 07/10/11 06:43pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

You say they did a compression test on "all 4 cylinders" maybe thats your problem, there should be 8 cylinders, are 4 missing?





ticat900

canada

Senior Member

Joined: 09/16/2006

View Profile


Offline
Posted: 07/10/11 06:49pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

ScottG wrote:

They can't just replace 4 cyl. It just doesn't work that way. If there's a problem with the head then they could do something like that but most of this just doesn't make sense.
Didn't you say previously that this was a 454? I don't believe for a second that there was "no reading" from 4 cyl's. Even if the head gasket or other important part is gone it will have some compression and I don't believe it would climb Grants pass on only the remaining 4 cyl.
I would go to someone else.


SCOTT is Correct.This whole story stinks the high heaven.If U had no compression on 4 of 8 cylinders the thing would hardly move on flat ground.Even the story of 2 dead spark plugs leaving six cylinders this rig would be suspect to climb a hill.Go get a second opinion.
NOTE:
I just read your old original post and its possible that the camshaft is wiped out.That will make the low compression problem,engine noises and not able to go over 20MPH up a hill.
If its a camshaft thats a far cry from a engine replacement
I still would get another opinion if thats possible

* This post was edited 07/10/11 07:08pm by ticat900 *

Charlie Two Tracks

Northern Illinois

Full Member

Joined: 10/30/2010

View Profile



Good Sam RV Club Member

Offline
Posted: 07/10/11 06:52pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Bummer. We had to replace our engine last year. You will have to decide how much money you want to put in that MH. If the engine has to be replaced, there is no way you can get that much money back out of the Motor Home. Our 95 had 62,000 on it but the mileage really doesn't matter that much. A second opinion would not hurt but if there is no compression.........


ARMY VIET-NAM 70-71
1995 Winnebago Brave 27'

catallison777

West Columbia, South Carolina

Senior Member

Joined: 11/16/2010

View Profile



Good Sam RV Club Member

Offline
Posted: 07/10/11 07:19pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

K Charles wrote:

You say they did a compression test on "all 4 cylinders" maybe thats your problem, there should be 8 cylinders, are 4 missing?


I was thinking the exact same thing


2003 Damon Ultrasport 3873
Onan Quietdiesel 7500
Caterpillar 3126E
Allison Transmission 3000
Honda EU2000i
1992 Jeep Wrangler(Towed 4 Down)


wny_pat

Western NYS

Senior Member

Joined: 08/11/2007

View Profile


Offline
Posted: 07/10/11 07:32pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Probably replace 4 pistons, out of the 8, but I am only guessing. There are some possible remedies. Have read many reports that "Ristone Engine Restorer" will do wonders with some old tired out engines. For the price, it is worth a try. But I do wonder about the "replacing 4 cylinders" deal. Is that what they really told you, or is it possible that you misunderstood them?

othertonka

Stockton, CA

Senior Member

Joined: 11/15/2003

View Profile



Good Sam RV Club Member


Posted: 07/10/11 07:40pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Please give us an update, a 454 has 8 cylindars, not four. If four cylindars have no compression, what do the other 4 cylindars have? They did check them didn't they? or did they just quit after finding no compression in four? As a second thought, there would be no reason to check any furthur if half of your cylindars have no compression. The engine will never run with only 4 out of 8 working cylindars and you are still not sure if the other 4 have any compression. Could it be a bad timing chain that maybe jumped a cog or two? Tough decision to pour money into something that is almost 20 years old when who knows what else will go wrong, tranny, differential, cooling system, AC System, roof problems and leaks, dry rot, you name it. Good luck.

Timing chain problem?


Othertonka
2004 Southwind 32VS 8.1 Workhorse chassis
2002 CRV Toad
U. S. Gear Unified brake system
Retired Fire Captain, SFD


Bushey562

Norco, CA

Senior Member

Joined: 10/18/2005

View Profile


Offline
Posted: 07/10/11 08:21pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Theres no such thing as replacing 4 cylinders on a 454. Either you misunderstood them or they are trying to take advantage of you. If there was no compression at all in 4 cylinders you would know something major was wrong and your complaint wouldnt be "it makes a funny noise going uphill" Get a 2nd opinion and maybe a 3rd, and dont let them know you have no knowledge of engines. Its better to be silent and be thought to be ignorant than to speak and prove it.

This Topic Is Closed  |  Print Topic  |  Post New Topic  | 
Page of 6  
Next

Open Roads Forum  >  Class A Motorhomes

 > Engine Noise When Going Uphill - UPDATE
Search:   Advanced Search

Search only in Class A Motorhomes


New posts No new posts
Closed, new posts Closed, no new posts
Moved, new posts Moved, no new posts

Adjust text size:

© 2013 RV.Net | Terms & Conditions | PRIVACY POLICY | YOUR PRIVACY RIGHTS