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Posted: 07/14/11 09:45pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

My coach always handled very well, even in high cross winds and when semi's passed me. But I installed a Steer safe for safety reasons and it made a big difference. I wasn't looking for a huge improvement because my coach was easy to drive but now it's amazing, it practically goes down the road with little or no input. I'm very impressed with the product, plus it was easy to install.


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I just installed my Steer Safe unit this morning and it took me an hour and a half for the install. I must have had the wheels dead strait when I installed it because I didn't need to make any adjustments when I test drove it. It made a huge difference in the way it handled, like day and night, no more wandering! It just wants to go strait down the road on it's own. I am really happy with Steer Safe.


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Gents,
This never ceases to amaze me. Here we have people putting their hard earned money, A LOT OF IT, to 2011 motor homes that these coach builders have been making for quite a while now and, they STILL CAN'T MAKE THEM GO STRAIGHT DOWN THE ROAD, without the adding of aftermarket equipment!!!! Hundreds of thousands of dollars and you still have to fight the infamous "wandering" and large truck effects!!!

Why can't these coach builders get a clue? I had to add the Steersafe to my '99 Bounder too. Now as much as we really liked the Bounder, a 34V with a single slide, that coach was severely poorly designed. They put a 100 gallon water tank, a 75 gallon fuel tank, and a 14 gallon LPG tank, all behind the rear axle. I was running down the road, 300 lbs just shy of the rear axle limit and "1700" lbs short of the front axle limit. Talk about some disproportional loading (on their part, not mine).

So, that's why I added the steer safe. And that was only after I'd added 2.5 degree shims for more caster and, even added one sixteenth of toe-in for some additional help. I took it to a frame and axle place here in San Diego that does large trucks, RVs etc and they said everything I did was exactly what they'd do. Other than that, it was perfect.

The steer safe did make a difference, but, not to the point where it was ONE FINGER DRIVING at all. It's just too bad that you nice folks pay all that money and still have to make improvements that the factory should have done a long time ago.
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topflite51 wrote:

Did you keep the print out from the alignment? If so what was the final caster setting?


David,
I did keep the final printout.
Left- 3.9 degrees
Right- 4.1 degrees

He said he set right a little higher to compensate for road crown.

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dbro60 wrote:

I just bought a 2011 Newmar Bay Star and drove it home from the dealer in Indy. It has the F53 chassis. After that ride I ordered Safe-Steer and immediately noticed the difference. Just got back from a trip to Canada and it was wonderful. Could drive with two fingers and did some of the time. No more push from the passing semis. I also ordered today, the Roadmaster front and back sway bars and the steering shock to compliment Safe Steer. Like I said, I just bought this coach the first of june and am already planning on my next coach. This being the first motorbike we have ever purchase and never having even a camper of any kind, what a way to travel.

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These are the kind of posts I read so this is what I was expecting. I still have wander and no 2 finger driving, although i never really expected 2 finger driving, just some help with wandering. I have no trouble with passing semi's etc.

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I just bought a 2011 Newmar Bay Star and drove it home from the dealer in Indy. It has the F53 chassis. After that ride I ordered Safe-Steer and immediately noticed the difference. Just got back from a trip to Canada and it was wonderful. Could drive with two fingers and did some of the time. No more push from the passing semis. I also ordered today, the Roadmaster front and back sway bars and the steering shock to compliment Safe Steer. Like I said, I just bought this coach the first of june and am already planning on my next coach. This being the first motorbike we have ever purchase and never having even a camper of any kind, what a way to travel.

Dave

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webhannet wrote:



You should also call Henderson's, the manufacturer, who will be happy to talk with you. They're NUMBER ONE in products to help handling in RV's, and they may suggest a rear tracbar - I trust them!
When did Henderson buy Steer Safe and start manufacturing them?.....


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Posted: 07/15/11 07:13am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Gee, thanks Camping World. I believe that chassis come WITH a steering stabilizer. My gasser came with one, but Camping World gleefully sold me a SafeTSteer and told me later.

That said, it seemed to work fine when the CW Service Writer allowed the coach to wander down the road embankment with no hands on the wheel while going 60 MPH. He wanted me to see how wonderful it was. In fact, I eventually DID have a blowout - and it worked well.

Your alignment hould be unaffected by the intallation, but fine-tuning of the unit adjustment is MORE than critical. Only by driving the unit can perfect adjutment be reached -and few places are interested in spending the time that may be required. READ THE INSTRUCTIONS and be prepared to do the fine-tuning yourself - it's easy.

You should also call Henderson's, the manufacturer, who will be happy to talk with you. They're NUMBER ONE in products to help handling in RV's, and they may suggest a rear tracbar - I trust them!

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just curious, shouldn't the alignment be done after the installation?
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When I installed a Steer-Safe, this is how I adjusted it, and what I did on a regular basis to insure that it stayed adjusted. First, when I installed it I made sure to shift the main component far enough away from the wheel portion so that I guaranteed the most spring force available to keep things in alignment. You can install the Steer-Safe, and it is a little easier, without any pre-tension on the springs. This will work, and it is easier for the install, but just not provide as much steering control.
In any case, drive down a smooth road and put a pointer on your dash and then make a mark on your steering wheel so that you know where the steering wheel is located when you are going straight down the road.
Once I did this, I parked the coach and aligned the steering wheel mark with the pointer. I then used the front leveling jacks to lift the front wheels off of the ground. If the steering wheel swings to either the right or the left, all you have to do is adjust the Steer-Safe springs to bring things back in alignment with the mark. This only takes a few minutes and eliminates the pulling to the side that can happen with a poorly adjusted Steer-Safe.

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