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I caught that deadly "STD" on my last trailer, passed it to my extension cord and in turn from the extension cord to my present trailer. I now have new ends ordered and plan to keep some dialectric grease on the blades.

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I am having sort of (?) the same thing happening to me right now. My 30 amp pigtail melted last night! One of the prongs literally almost fell out. The wire itself was extremely hot so I unplugged the thing and am running on the generator.
I am heading to an RV place to buy a new plug. But am wondering if this happened because it is so hot here and we've run the air non stop.... or is the box bad?
I'm going to stop at the rangers and show it to them and ask their opinion. We are at a state park in Nebraska.

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dualgwp wrote:

I am having sort of (?) the same thing happening to me right now. My 30 amp pigtail melted last night! One of the prongs literally almost fell out. The wire itself was extremely hot so I unplugged the thing and am running on the generator.
I am heading to an RV place to buy a new plug. But am wondering if this happened because it is so hot here and we've run the air non stop.... or is the box bad?
I'm going to stop at the rangers and show it to them and ask their opinion. We are at a state park in Nebraska.

The terminals in the campground breaker box came become worn. When this happens the prongs on your pigtail do not make a good contact. This causes arcing and will burn the prongs on your pigtail and the heat will melt the pigtail.


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rhochnadel wrote:

Too many experts here, they will get you in trouble. PM me if you want to find out the problem and find a solution. There are not two hot wires in a 30 Amp RV circuit, only one hot, one neutral, and one ground. I am not aware of any difference between an electrician and a rv electrician. Neither one will connect a green wire to a white neutral without a very special reason. Feel free to PM me anytime, I will get you the correct advice, retired electrician.


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Someone in another thread somewhere had a plug melt to the outlet at a park, they had to cut it off, then pry the plug out of the socket.

The park maintenance man decided to do a "post mortum" on the plug.

Turns out the hot lead was crimped onto the pin (Blade) (I might add the others were too) but on the hot lead only about half the wires were caught in the crimp.

Half the wire.. overheated.

I do not believe ALL the 30 amp plugs are so poorly built and only on the one pin, always the same pin.. And I do wonder why it's always that same pin, never the other ones.


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I had to have campground maintenance replace post female outlet twice on last outing. Too many people unplug and plug in with power switched on. Burnt socket will cause burnt plug.





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rhochnadel wrote:

Too many experts here, they will get you in trouble. PM me if you want to find out the problem and find a solution. There are not two hot wires in a 30 Amp RV circuit, only one hot, one neutral, and one ground. I am not aware of any difference between an electrician and a rv electrician. Neither one will connect a green wire to a white neutral without a very special reason. Feel free to PM me anytime, I will get you the correct advice, retired electrician.
Beleive me, there is a big difference between them. I had to have a face to face with an RV TECH at a big dealership south of Indy when he could not find the direct short in my 5er when I put it in writing to him on the report form. This is on a 50amp. service and would trip the 50amp breaker,but not effect 30amp service,except for the mild shock you would get if you touched the frame and the ground with bare feet at the same time. He troubleshoot it only on 30amp service. He found it when he plugged it into a 50amp service. He ate crow. Retired electrician also. JME


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There is a movie (Jerry Lewis type) Called, as I recall: Birds Do It.

In one scene a scientist is talking to a military officer, Sgt, I think. and says

"Sgt.! DO YOU KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN .... " cut to next scene

the Sgt. is saying "Of course I know the difference, You need a shovel to dig a hole in the ground"

NOTE: I typed it the way I recall it, I did not "Clean it up"

Funniest scene in the whole movie it was. I do recall the plot of the movie, but that's about all.

Some folks.. Don't know when to use a shovel.

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