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tempforce

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it was just the state complaining to the base, about the loud out of state vehicles.
one of my friends showed up with a straight piped pickup with Oklahoma plates. he had to put a muffler on it, to get base tags.
my jeep was just checked as it had all of the required equipment.
when transfered to Chicago, that base complained about my bumpers sticking out on the jeep !!!. they were even with the fender flares.
i used my home state tags, insurance, ect at every location.
except Hawaii, they required an extra sticker, for road use.

my last gasoline vehicle passed all emissions test, without a converter, egr, ect. and got 4 mpg better after modifying the engine. (my home state didn't require a under vehicle inspection at that time)..
and yes you can be pulled over in any state for a safety inspection, possible overload, non taxed fuel and federal regulations, which include emissions.

California is refusing puc permits to heavy trucks going into the l.a., San Diego and San Fransisco areas, not meeting their exhaust emission requirements. this is currently based on the model year of heavy truck. ie: a staged enforcement period..
some drivers are refusing loads to/from california...


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bkirkpatrick wrote:

chevor wrote:

I heard they have laws on new 18wheels that must have a slanted grill in order to enter the state.
Urban Legend. You cannot enforce California laws on vehicles that are registered elsewhere. You can enforce driving rules and regulations (ie. Speeding, unsafe load, etc.) but not equipment laws.

Trua and not true, this is CARB's and the EPA's vision of the future truck, not in effect yet but on there list. They can and already do inforce these things on commercial trucks from outta state, right now reefer engines,side skirts on box trailers, emmision stardard's limiting year of engine. CARB is redickulous



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Norcalrockhunter wrote:

the original stop was for over sized exhaust,



What?????? There is no such thing.

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MadMav wrote:

What?????? There is no such thing.Mav

x2. Even if I had pipes (stacks) hanging out of my truck, it does not mean that I don't have a cat on my truck.


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bkirkpatrick wrote:

MadMav wrote:

What?????? There is no such thing.Mav

x2. Even if I had pipes (stacks) hanging out of my truck, it does not mean that I don't have a cat on my truck.


BK, wouldn't that meet requirements for probable cause or reasonable suspicion? That would suck though as my 2001 7.3 did not come stock with a cat.


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jackxclan wrote:

bkirkpatrick wrote:

chevor wrote:

I heard they have laws on new 18wheels that must have a slanted grill in order to enter the state.
Urban Legend. You cannot enforce California laws on vehicles that are registered elsewhere. You can enforce driving rules and regulations (ie. Speeding, unsafe load, etc.) but not equipment laws.

Trua and not true, this is CARB's and the EPA's vision of the future truck, not in effect yet but on there list. They can and already do inforce these things on commercial trucks from outta state, right now reefer engines,side skirts on box trailers, emmision stardard's limiting year of engine. CARB is redickulous


Your certainly entitled to your views about CARB. But I have been raised in California from a baby and I am now 55 years old. Growing up as a child, I used to play in my Grandmas back yard. At the end of the day my throat and lungs used to hurt, and you couldn't see the mountains 20 miles away. Along came CARB, now we have the most cars registered in the Nation, the air is cleaner and clearer than it's ever been. And others states have adopted our clean air standards that are more strict than the Fed standards. So I have first hand experience about how some regulations can have a very positive outcome.

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1dieseldude wrote:

bkirkpatrick wrote:

MadMav wrote:

What?????? There is no such thing.Mav

x2. Even if I had pipes (stacks) hanging out of my truck, it does not mean that I don't have a cat on my truck.


BK, wouldn't that meet requirements for probable cause or reasonable suspicion? That would suck though as my 2001 7.3 did not come stock with a cat.
Definitely not PC and very slim on the reasonable suspicion. My question is where do you draw the line from have them pop your hood and start checking for tuners, aftermarket turbos, etc. As far as your stock truck not coming with a cat, maybe someone who is familiar with the CARB laws can chime in. I know the CARB police are going to be in full force in the next couple of years.

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CKNSLS wrote:

Your certainly entitled to your views about CARB. But I have been raised in California from a baby and I am now 55 years old. Growing up as a child, I used to play in my Grandmas back yard. At the end of the day my throat and lungs used to hurt, and you couldn't see the mountains 20 miles away. Along came CARB, now we have the most cars registered in the Nation, the air is cleaner and clearer than it's ever been. And others states have adopted our clean air standards that are more strict than the Fed standards. So I have first hand experience about how some regulations can have a very positive outcome.
Agree with you and remember those lung burning days also. However, I do not believe that the diesel truck owner was the culprit but rather the phasing out of the older vehicle with horrible emissions. I think that many here also agree that the diesel truck is far less of a polluter that the Korean War bright yellow school bus still allowed to be in service.

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I generally fill up with fuel at the big truck island. When the new low sulfur fuel was introduced the drivers said the trucks got 1.5 MPG worse mileage. Which by my math is about 15% decrease. It also increased cost per gallon. I thought I remember that the low sulfur was to reduce emissions by 5%. So this "improvement" has actually increased pollutants.

I sold a my old TH to a guy in Cali who has a mobile diesel particulate filter cleaner. We talked about his Biz and he said he thought by 2014 ALL diesels will have to have this filter. He also said that older truck would not be exempt.

"So we have that going for us which is nice" Done in my best Carl Spackler voice......


BTW I am all for cleaner air water etc. But I always cringe when I hear "Were from the government and were here to help"

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Posted: 08/24/11 08:31am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

CKNSLS wrote:

jackxclan wrote:

bkirkpatrick wrote:

chevor wrote:

I heard they have laws on new 18wheels that must have a slanted grill in order to enter the state.
Urban Legend. You cannot enforce California laws on vehicles that are registered elsewhere. You can enforce driving rules and regulations (ie. Speeding, unsafe load, etc.) but not equipment laws.

Trua and not true, this is CARB's and the EPA's vision of the future truck, not in effect yet but on there list. They can and already do inforce these things on commercial trucks from outta state, right now reefer engines,side skirts on box trailers, emmision stardard's limiting year of engine. CARB is redickulous


Your certainly entitled to your views about CARB. But I have been raised in California from a baby and I am now 55 years old. Growing up as a child, I used to play in my Grandmas back yard. At the end of the day my throat and lungs used to hurt, and you couldn't see the mountains 20 miles away. Along came CARB, now we have the most cars registered in the Nation, the air is cleaner and clearer than it's ever been. And others states have adopted our clean air standards that are more strict than the Fed standards. So I have first hand experience about how some regulations can have a very positive outcome.


I remember those days as well-
However, when jobs are moved out of state, down to Mexico, or even overseas because of carb/EPA you have a problem. It doesn't really matter if the air is cleaner if people can't feed their families. Especially when all that "stuff" is still getting released into the air in other states/countries.

CA and Californians (of which I am one) still don't get it- As if the EPA issues were not bad enough you watch what happens if they repeal prop 13 for businesses. The traffic jam leaving the state will be so bad it will take a week to get out of here.

Those of you who work for someone else need to start thinking about how your vote (who you vote for) affects your business and your boss- For thousands its way too late as once a business leaves CA it isn't coming back.


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