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Looking at a 2012 Wildcat 32 ft fifth wheel UVW 8300lbs, PIN weight 1512 lbs. All this from the skeptical Forest River Spec sheet.

My truck is a 2000 Chevy 2500 4x4 classic crew cab non-HD model. 7.4 ltr 454 engine 3.73 gears. Truck weighs 6500 lbs. GVWR 8600. Max tow capacity 9500.

So what do you think? Should I look for a one-ton single wheel diesel?

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Check the GCVW that will tell you more. I would expect that the vehicle came with a factory tow package. If not, there is a lot you will have to do to get the vehicle ready to tow.


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ng2951 wrote:

Check the GCVW that will tell you more. I would expect that the vehicle came with a factory tow package. If not, there is a lot you will have to do to get the vehicle ready to tow.

Yea it has all the towing package. Its ready to tow. Weve had a TT for the past 5 years weighing 6800lbs. That trailer was absoulutly no problem for the 454.

The only specs I can find on the internet give the GCVW at 15000. So probaly when everything is loaded Ill be to heavy.

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Max tow = 9500# MINUS everything in the truck except a 150# driver.
Fiver UVW = 8300#.
Add the weight of a hitch, propane tanks, battery(ies) and other options to the fiver and I have a feeling you just ran out of payload before you even put a case of beer in the fridge!


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There is nothing wrong with looking at a one-ton single wheel diesel. A 1 ton truck will answer all the questions you have.

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Posted: 08/30/11 07:27am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I always like to advise to get the truck for the next trailer you will be towing.

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The manual also has tow ratings for that year truck.

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Scale it. then you will have all the info you need to make a good decision. Then you will have the tow rating in the manual. The door sticker then the scaled numbers to see what capacity you have left.


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Sounds like you would be at or just over your tow ratings. I would expect you could tow it fine (except the gas stops), but you would enjoy it more with a diesel with those weights. Pay attention to the ratings with the diesel, 2500 don't have as much payload as you would expect sometimes...

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You "COULD" also change the gears on the pumkins out to 4.10s, and get to a facotry rated 16 or 16500, 4.56 would put you at 19000 or close to there abouts......

Reality is, IF you can stay under the axel ratings, yes over the GCWR, you can and will be safe! You may be a bit slow. but the 454 IIRC was rated at 290/440 or there abouts in your year, so frankly, you have the power! No whether or not you have the springs/tires to handle the pin load.

Your rear is probably 2400 empty, add say 2000 lbs loaded you are now at 4400 on a 6100 rated rear end.....still room to go before overloading.

If it were me, I would change out the rear springs by getting a new pack by adding one or two leafs to the main pack a bit thicker, call it a day, unless I felt I did not have the initial go power, then change out the axel gears to lower ones, if I did, I would go all the way to 4.56 frankly. As the real culprit is the tranny with its rediculously tall 2.48-1 or about 4-1 with the TC enguages 1st gear. OR< you could rebuild the tranny, and put the first two gears from a 4L60E in it, and go from a 2.58 to a 3.08 first gear, and do the same or a bit more than going to 4.10s still have some freeway tall gears for empty MPG's......

Then again, you could go with a newer rig......A 3500 in the model you have only has a 9200 GVWR< you will gain about 500 lbs of payload. the DUally has a 10K gvwr, frankly, your payload gain will be all of maybe 600-700 lbs. WOrk with what you have and you might be better off. Also going to 265-75-16 rubber would give you another 800 lbs of tire capacity.

No reason to worry about GCWR< other than for civil court cases, as legally this number is non existant, and your warrenty is gone..........

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