Looking at a 2012 Wildcat 32 ft fifth wheel UVW 8300lbs, PIN weight 1512 lbs...My truck is a 2000 Chevy 2500 4x4 classic crew cab non-HD model. 7.4 ltr 454 engine 3.73 gears...So what do you think? Should I look for a one-ton single wheel diesel?
The 2007 GMC 2500 Crew Cabbed Duramax with the diesel engine have GCVW of 22K# with a max tow weight of over 15.4K#. (all this from the GMC manual)
If you wanted to go with a gas engine the 6000 engine can tow 10K# with GCVW of 16K#. With the 8000 gas engine that goes to 13.5K# if either engine uses the 3.73 engine (though the 8000 goes to a GCVW 20K#). If you had the 4.10 with the 8000 gas that goes to towing 15.6K# with 22K# GCVW.
You are probably looking at a lower pruchase costs going with the gas engine over diesel. However, in order to get the power from the gas engines you have to run the engine at a much higher RPM. Remember that means more fuel consumption.
Most (maybe all) of the GMC 2500 Duramax diesels come with Allison transmission too. I am not sure if the gas versions do. Also a maintained Duramax is probably 500K mile vehicle too. I am not sure if the gas engine can make that claim...
Looking at a 2012 Wildcat 32 ft fifth wheel UVW 8300lbs, PIN weight 1512 lbs. All this from the skeptical Forest River Spec sheet.
My truck is a 2000 Chevy 2500 4x4 classic crew cab non-HD model. 7.4 ltr 454 engine 3.73 gears. Truck weighs 6500 lbs. GVWR 8600. Max tow capacity 9500.
So what do you think? Should I look for a one-ton single wheel diesel?
'Classic', so assuming you mean GMT400? or is it a GMT800? Currently
selling full sized are GMT900's
Think you have a GMT400, as with the GM800 came the 8.1L big block.
So it's very much like my Suburban, just a few years newer, but still
Best to go out and weigh your TV, as mine is also a curb weight of
5,500 to 6,000 lbs, but really weighs 7,400 with me (180lbs), toolbox
(+200 lbs) and misc stuff along with the additional options of big
block, 4x4, highest option trim, etc, etc. Betcha yours will come in
over 7,000 lbs actual weight.
Most all OEM's use the 'curb' weight, one 150lb driver and the towing
option as the basis to determine the MTWR listed in all of their
Here is the metrics in a diagram and all you need do is to plug
in the 'actual' weights to determine your 'actual' MTWR (max tow
-Ben Picture of my rig
1996 GMC SLT Suburban 3/4 ton K3500/7.4L/4:1/+150Kmiles orig owner...
1980 Chevy Silverado C10/long bed/"BUILT" 5.7L/3:73/1 ton helper springs/+329Kmiles, bought it from dad...
1998 Mazda B2500 (1/2 ton) pickup, 2nd owner...
Praise Dyno Brake equiped and all have "nose bleed" braking!
Previous trucks/offroaders: 40's Jeep restored in mid 60's / 69 DuneBuggy (approx +1K lb: VW pan/200hpCorvair: eng, cam, dual carb'w velocity stacks'n 18" runners, 4spd transaxle) made myself from ground up / 1970 Toyota FJ40 / 1973 K5 Blazer (2dr Tahoe, 1 ton axles front/rear, +255K miles when sold it)...
Sold the boat (looking for another): Trophy with twin 150's...
51 cylinders in household, what's yours?...
Thanks everyone for all the info, but the fact is Ive got a headache. All these numbers are really killin me. I weighed my truck this week with me in it and full tank of gas and it came in at 6500 lbs. GVWR is 8600. Max tow is 9500 in the manual.
It has a towin package, tranny cooler, aux cooling fan, 265/70/16 Toyo tires, Airlift Air bags. 80,000 miles. I do know that although its a gas engine the 454 Vortec is one dang tough motor. I did get 8 miles to the gallon with my previous 7000 TT, but it was no problem to run 65-70mph in these NC mountains.
So im going to give it a try and see what happens. If Im not happy I can always sell it and look for a diesel. Thanks again.