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Posted: 09/06/11 08:08pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I guess an important question here is, did he ever want to return to this camp ground?

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Posted: 09/06/11 08:33pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

In Texas a handshake or words of agreement are a binding contract. If he had been paying a monthly payment based on a yearly rate, he probably agreed to it.


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Posted: 09/07/11 06:03am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

jimtoo wrote:

In Texas a handshake or words of agreement are a binding contract.


That's funny! I'd love to see how that plays out in court......

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Posted: 09/07/11 06:52am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

naysmitj wrote:

I guess an important question here is, did he ever want to return to this camp ground?


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Posted: 09/06/11 11:04pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

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IMO, no contract (lease, rental agreement, etc.) = no liability.
No contract, no pay.
Without some kind of written agreement I wouldn't think he would be liable.


Legally......probably very true. I said/he said usually doesn't solve anything.


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It seems pretty simple. Ask for a copy of the agreement which says he owes a years rent.
Ask the CG to send a copy of the signed contract for the yearly lease.


These are very good suggestions...have CG sent copy of signed agreement if one does exist.

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I'd tell them to take me to court!

Tough crowd.....maybe Judge Judy


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However, perhaps he did enter into a "gentleman's agreement" to stay and pay all year in order to get the lower yearly rate so there may be an ethical issue.
In Texas a handshake or words of agreement are a binding contract. If he had been paying a monthly payment based on a yearly rate, he probably agreed to it.


This is my take....Why would CG 'give' him a break on monthly by using the lower yearly rate unless some sort of discussion occurred and an agreement happened (written or verbal). CG's DO NOT just drop their rates for s...& giggles.

If your 'friend' doesn't remember agreeing or didn't sign an agreement than he should figure out the difference between 'regular' monthly rate and 'yearly monthly' rate then send CG difference for the months that he got the 'yearly monthly' rate.

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Posted: 09/06/11 11:37pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

He knowingly accepted the lower rate and apparently knew it was the annual rate. He confirmed this nine consecutive times. I think he is liable.

At the very least he would seem to be on a month to month and should have given 30 day notice to move... did he?

I would call and ask what could be worked out as it seems too small to get caught up in court. Maybe get a voucher to stay the months at another time if he pays now?

At the very least he should pony up the monthly rate for the time spent.... what is the difference there?


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Posted: 09/07/11 07:07am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

turninghawk wrote:

jimtoo wrote:

In Texas a handshake or words of agreement are a binding contract.


That's funny! I'd love to see how that plays out in court......


What's even more funny is I spent winters in both your home states (Texas and Florida.) Each attitude displayed is so true for that part of the country.

As they say, birds of a feather flock together.

But as an added statement I'll say in Florida you know enough to be careful. In Texas not all handshakes are created the same. Some of the time your shoes will be getting wet at the same time your hand is being shaken.

Like I said prior, ask for a copy of the signed leased agreement. I doubt that the park was a 100% full when the lower rate was offered and with over 500 campgrounds in the Valley and a bad economy I doubt they wanted to see a paying customer leave.

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Posted: 09/07/11 10:29am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

jimtoo, I just happen to agree with you. I have a yearly deal on my seasonal and it aint in writing. I gave my word to stay for a year at a certain discount. If I leave early, I will pay the full tab.

But then again, thats why Texans are called honest. If you cant give your word and live up to it, dont come down here please.


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Not too many people here that I would buy a used car from!

A deal is a deal, written or verbal.
What is with the weaseling out?


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Road Phantom wrote:

A friend of mine stayed in one of the senior cg in the rio grande valley last year. He paid the monthly rate for a few months early in the season and the cg put him on a yearly rate. He did not sign anything and paid the bill every month. It seems he got a little confused about the binding charges. Even though he physically left after 9 months,they still want him to pay the rest of the year.
I don't know what to suggest to him. Is he liable since he didn't sign a contract or not.


No contract not binding.
I sign up for the monthly rate, pay it and OFTEN leave before the months up. They certainly don't come after me trying to make me pay for the weekly rate for the time spent there. AND actually they make more money by being able to rent out a site that has been already paid for in my instance.

It's not like a CG in the RioGrand is going to go BK if one camper leaves early.

* This post was edited 09/07/11 12:09pm by rockhillmanor *


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