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Is the 1994 Winnibago Vectra diesel (230hp) underpowered for a rv weighing 18000 lbs?

CUMMINS 230HP 5.9L DIESEL
6-SPEED ALLISON TRANSMISSION

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All depends on how much it weighs. The 5.9 Cummins/230HP probably has a 4 spd Allison tranny instead of the 6 spd. You would be better off getting a Moderator to move this to the Class A forum.


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While power requirements are certainly subjective, the OLD rule of thumb was 1 HP per 100 lbs GCW. I guess the new rule of thumb is I NEED MORE HP.

Some of the B engines were fit with the much better 6 speed transmissions, some with the reliable but fewer gears and a torque converter that was not locked up in as many gears 4 speed. Said another way, a Cummins B with Allison MD3060 6 speed in that light a coach would be fine IMO as long as you don't plan to tow a heavy toad.

That coach driven reasonably will return 10 MPG.


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jassrnj wrote:

I am considering purchasing a 1994 Vectra with a diesel motor. I have heard that it is very underpowered. I believe the diesel is rated at 230 hp.

Is it underpowered?
Welcome to RV.Net! I'll answer your question by saying yes and no! It all depends on where you will be traveling IMHO. If your going to be going up and down mountains and towing a vehicle (toad) I'll say yes. If your not going to be towing a vehicle and staying pretty much on flat ground (occasional mountain driving driving) I'll say no! Vectra are very nice coaches (I think Winnebago has changed there name several years ago to Tour) The engine you have is small but it may also maybe able to be turned up for more power. Happy Trails, Rooster

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jassrnj wrote:

I am considering purchasing a 1994 Vectra with a diesel motor. I have heard that it is very underpowered. I believe the diesel is rated at 230 hp.

Is it underpowered?


YES do not buy this unit as its very very underpowered to say the least.DO NOT go under 300HP on any DPMH

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We had a '93 Winnebago Vectra diesel, and towed a '93 Ford Explorer with no problem at all. We took it up and down mountains, and flat ground, too. Didn't really notice it back there when towing.

We both regret getting rid of it to go with something bigger (a 5th wheel), and wish we still had it.


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I have driven a bunch of coaches with the 4 speed and they did just fine. A little doggy but since I am never in a hurry they would be suitable to me. Keep you toad light...eg under 3500 pounds.


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This is the same setup we have in our '94 Rexhall and approximately the same weight. It gets down the road just fine, until you add a toad. I'm considering upgrading to the 'Banks' power pack. It's expensive, but it is a balanced system, one designed for all of the components used. I've been told you can make similar gains in hp & torque, by using several off the shelf components, for about half the cost.
We also have the 3060 Allison transmission with two overdrives. The Banks system is supposed to give 94hp, 214ft#'s of rear wheel torque and 12% better fuel economy. That would tune the old 5.9B motor to: 325hp and 625ft#'s of torque. Not bad for a 'B' motor! Not sure that a combination of off the shelf parts would yield those gains across the board or not (kinda doubt it)?

That's just me thinkin', I haven't done this to my coach ... yet.
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Steelsmith wrote:

This is the same setup we have in our '94 Rexhall and approximately the same weight. It gets down the road just fine, until you add a toad. I'm considering upgrading to the 'Banks' power pack. It's expensive, but it is a balanced system, one designed for all of the components used. I've been told you can make similar gains in hp & torque, by using several off the shelf components, for about half the cost.
We also have the 3060 Allison transmission with two overdrives. The Banks system is supposed to give 94hp, 214ft#'s of rear wheel torque and 12% better fuel economy. That would tune the old 5.9B motor to: 325hp and 625ft#'s of torque. Not bad for a 'B' motor! Not sure that a combination of off the shelf parts would yield those gains across the board or not (kinda doubt it)?

That's just me thinkin', I haven't done this to my coach ... yet.
Dan Stevens

your a lot better off to find a old gulfstream or beaver or whatever thats got the 325HP 8.3 at 1050lbs torque.than buy a old beater 1994 winnie with a 230HP isb and then spend who knows how much trying to make a 3 into a 9

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