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Posted: 10/25/11 10:29pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Seems that I have read about CA gas stations have gas nozzles that may not fit "traditional RV gas tank openings. May require some type of filling connection (seems it had something to do with what some use with motorcycles). I cannot find the thread in a search. Am I crazy?

I am headed to CA tomorrow and plan to spend the winter. Would hate to have difficultly filling my tank.

Many thanks for any insights.


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No issues that I ever heard of.

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I think what you are refering to might be the Diesel nozzles at truck islands at truck stops that are full flow and so they are larger in diameter and might not fit the filler opening of a motor home. Trucks have an fill opening of at least 3 inches in Diameter so they can fill faster. Not having a diesel MH I have not experienced that. But for a Gasoline rig, I have never had a problem with the nozzle fitting my MH in california or any other state I have visited.
Maybe some diesel owners can shed some light on that.


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Posted: 10/25/11 10:40pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Found the same type in TX this month. Worked fine on our 1992 MH. You have to have to fully insert them for the gas to flow but was able to top off OK in both states by going slow for the last 10 gallons.

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My 2008 Itasca SunCruiser seems to have a problem with the body trim around the gas inlet. I often have difficulty inserting some gas nozzles into the opening, and it is more difficult removing them.

Last week in Shiprock, NM at a Shell station the nozzle got stuck and could not be removed. I had the attendant try, along with 3 Navajo men assisting, all of us with screwdrivers trying to pry it out. The coiled spring on the nozzle hung up in the opening. We thought that we would need to cut the spring, but I had everyone back up, and I pulled it with full force, which straightened the coiled spring, and the nozzle finally came out, with no apparent damage. I won't insert it fully from now out if it is difficult to insert, which may require less than full flow into the tank?

The only negative part of the experience was when one of the Navajo men wanted $5 for use of his screwdriver, but the attendant quickly intervened and told him not to do that. I did a quick fencing parry with him and my own screwdriver which defused the situation, and we all laughed and I thoroughly thanked them for their help.


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Pangaea Ron wrote:

My 2008 Itasca SunCruiser seems to have a problem with the body trim around the gas inlet. I often have difficulty inserting some gas nozzles into the opening, and it is more difficult removing them.

Last week in Shiprock, NM at a Shell station the nozzle got stuck and could not be removed. I had the attendant try, along with 3 Navajo men assisting, all of us with screwdrivers trying to pry it out. The coiled spring on the nozzle hung up in the opening. We thought that we would need to cut the spring, but I had everyone back up, and I pulled it with full force, which straightened the coiled spring, and the nozzle finally came out, with no apparent damage. I won't insert it fully from now out if it is difficult to insert, which may require less than full flow into the tank?

The only negative part of the experience was when one of the Navajo men wanted $5 for use of his screwdriver, but the attendant quickly intervened and told him not to do that. I did a quick fencing parry with him and my own screwdriver which defused the situation, and we all laughed and I thoroughly thanked them for their help.


That station was the most negative experience of our recent 8000 mile trip and we visited many as you could guess but there are not a lot of options in the middle of no where.

The person at the pumped finished and pulled up about 12 feet and they took turns going to the over flowing out houses since like some other stations they do not have inside rest rooms for the customers.

I had been waiting about 10 minutes for them to come out of the store before this so it was like 20+ minutes before I got to the pump. It shut off after $75 and we headed to Farmington which was a nice country type town.

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Thanks for the quick replies. Guess it was the diesel issue. I have a gas engine. One less thing to worry about!!

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The problem you remember has to do with the Enhanced vapor recovery device on the California nozzles. These were installed to assist with vapor recovery. Some coaches have their fuel fillers in such a manner that the rubber device won't be held back far enough to allow fuel to flow. There are a number of fixes. Yours may not be one that's affected. Most were Winnebagos. Here's a link....Dennis

California "Clean Air" nozzles
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Finding the same at a Dallas station was a surprise. Maybe they are going nation wide. Only found one station in CA that was actually doing the recovery thing with these kinds of pumps.

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Our "Gas" stations do not have anything special to prevent filling your motorhome or a motrcycle.

They do have vapor recovery, and that requires the nozzel to be put in the normal direction, if you try to put it in upside down (helps to fill faster with some trucks) it will shut off immedently, so a motorcycle might have a problem filling if they have to hold it at a certain angle, as they usually have a top mounted fuel cap, while a car or truck typically has a side mounted cap.

I was in Nevada about 15 years ago, when they did not have vapor recovery in their gas stations. I had lived in California so long, that I had not been in a gas station that stinks of fuel vapors! On a warm day it is worse. I am glad that we have vapor recovery, and it probably helps to prevent fuel station fires, I have not heard of one in many years, except for cars crashing full speed into a pump, or driving off while the pump handle is still in the vehicle.

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