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This is at a no reserve auction near me.
1997 Newmar London Aire, Cummins 8.3 L, 325 hp, exhaust brake, Allison A/T, A/R susp, 1 slide, 71K miles. Photos look great, of course.

Assuming it looks good in person, what price would be a steal, given that it can't be test-driven or put through a full inspection? A basic eyeball inspection is possible, plus maybe starting it up.

Or is it not a good model to begin with?


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The London Air is made mainly for the owners of Newmar, they use them for a year then get rid of them. It is the cadalic of the newmar units. Go to newmar.com and price them now Probably starting near $750,000 if engine in good shape and service been done that cummins is good for one heck of a lot of miles. I would not be afraid of it if engine is good.

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To get that price, you'll have to know/learn more about what it's going to take to bring it up to snuff. The price to do that can vary dramatically depending on if you're doing the work (willing AND able?) or paying to have it done. If there are no service records available, going through it from front to rear servicing EVERYTHING that should have been done to it previously can be an expensive headache as well - even if you're doing it yourself. This'll be important as you'll need to establish a baseline for future service intervals! Then there's likely going to be a set of tires involved...

All this assuming the body is solid and even worth working on?

I've seen some awesome deals arising from no reserve auctions. Personally though, I think they're for the very experienced, or the very lucky...


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On that year London Aire, they were NOT built even to 2002 DSDP standards. It is a relic for those years (mid to upper 90's). You need to check the condition of the entry door. They had a problem with them getting loose and are expensive to replace if Newmar even still has those doors. London Aire's were NOT made just for the Miller owner family. They were built on a production line and usually 5 at a time, up to 30 or 40 per year depending on the orders. The London Aire back then and up until the mid 2000 was the top of the line for Newmar until the King Aire came out. Yes, the PROTOTYPE London aires were built for the Miller family, but they were regular production motorhomes. The prototype motorhomes by Newmar for the Miller family usually had some features that were not an option on the production models. Doug

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If in better than average condition, I would say anything around $35k should be good.....it books for about 50k...Dennis


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rlc 19888 wrote:

Snowman:

The London Air is made mainly for the owners of Newmar, they use them for a year then get rid of them. It is the cadalic of the newmar units. Go to newmar.com and price them now Probably starting near $750,000 if engine in good shape and service been done that cummins is good for one heck of a lot of miles. I would not be afraid of it if engine is good.


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Is that "$750,000" a typo?

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If it were me, as much as I admire the London Aire I would be very careful that it is not an "all electric" coach. We had a customer on an RV caravan in that time frame with an "all electric" London Aire and it was a disaster. It did not have enough battery capacity to make it work well. He had to run his generator whenever he wasn't hooked up to shore power. I was not impressed with that feature at all.

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Well, Newmar certainly has a great reputation (based on anecdotal evidence and my own research gathered over several years). If something like that popped up near me and I was in the market for a DP, I'd certainly consider it. The best you can do is thoroughly inspect the unit and listen to it run, and see if you can operate all the systems including running the genset and ACs, furnace(s), etc. Maybe the former owner(s) left the service records in a cabinet in the unit; I'd look thoroughly for them. If there's anything wrong with it, be sure it's something you can fix or get fixed for the right price, and take that into consideration in your bid. And try not to get carried away if the bidding gets too high. Good luck and let us know if you meet with success.


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Francesca Knowles wrote:

rlc 19888 wrote:

Snowman:

The London Air is made mainly for the owners of Newmar, they use them for a year then get rid of them. It is the cadalic of the newmar units. Go to newmar.com and price them now Probably starting near $750,000 if engine in good shape and service been done that cummins is good for one heck of a lot of miles. I would not be afraid of it if engine is good.


(Gulp)

Is that "$750,000" a typo?

I hope?


Yes, $750,000 list price for a new one today sounds about right. That coach was probably about $400,000 list in 1997 and with a NADA retail of about $50,000 today you should be able to find one selling for about $40,000.....And that's if it's not one of the famous all-electric London Aires Ed mentioned above. From what I've read and seen the wiring was too light in the all electric ones and after they were two or three months old and had a little corrosion on the breakers the regular electrical loads were enough to pop breakers and cause other breakdowns. With current power demands from computers, wifi, phone chargers, etc., you may be looking at major rewiring jobs. But you'd have a great coach once you were done.

As the owner of a rescue coach, I'd encourage you to get it if the price is right, and if you and your friends have some electrical and mechanical skills.


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gonesouth wrote:

Francesca Knowles wrote:

rlc 19888 wrote:

Snowman:

The London Air is made mainly for the owners of Newmar, they use them for a year then get rid of them. It is the cadalic of the newmar units. Go to newmar.com and price them now Probably starting near $750,000 if engine in good shape and service been done that cummins is good for one heck of a lot of miles. I would not be afraid of it if engine is good.


(Gulp)

Is that "$750,000" a typo?

I hope?


Yes, $750,000 list price for a new one today sounds about right. That coach was probably about $400,000 list in 1997 and with a NADA retail of about $50,000 today you should be able to find one selling for about $40,000.....And that's if it's not one of the famous all-electric London Aires Ed mentioned above. From what I've read and seen the wiring was too light in the all electric ones and after they were two or three months old and had a little corrosion on the breakers the regular electrical loads were enough to pop breakers and cause other breakdowns. With current power demands from computers, wifi, phone chargers, etc., you may be looking at major rewiring jobs. But you'd have a great coach once you were done.

As the owner of a rescue coach, I'd encourage you to get it if the price is right, and if you and your friends have some electrical and mechanical skills.


A new one today would be $0. The London Aire was so disliked that it has been discontinued.


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