FunnyCamper wrote: no one 'lets their smoke drift to others'
come on it is wind related mostly.
smoke is going to travel where it wants to travel. I want a fire and smoke heads your way then that is life.
I was smoked out by a neighbors fire a few times. Wind came my way. I went into the camper and relaxed. What else could I do? I knew it 'is what it is' and I had to adapt.
if you truly have a medical situation that requires no smoke etc. then you must work around that in life. Not make other works around you. We all have needs that must be met. We find all ways to handle them. To say everyone must stop a basic camping ideal for a medical problem by one does not work. In fact it is very sad anyone would think that.
but lately a few cgs I went to that did allow fires now say no fires. so more options may be open to you.
Yes, drifting smoke is caused by the breeze. In the past, I've had to go into the RV to avoid the smoke. I'll sit up wind from the fire and enjoy the ambiance. But many, IMHO, have no clue on how to build a fire to minimize smoke.
This is another reason why we now have an RV pad at the kid's cabin. The only downside is the neighbor 3 cottages down that burns his garbage and doesn't check or care about wind direction.
OK I`ll bite! where would one find "smokeless firewood"?
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OK I`ll bite! where would one find "smokeless firewood"?
As I recall from my scouting years, there are a few things you can do, but your question cites the problem exactly - if I recall correctly, the most significant way to reduce smoke is by means of firewood choice. While you can do a little with log spacing (more compact fires create more smoke - hence the 'log cabin' design of a fire to leave some room for air circulation), the primary means of reducing smoke is to use old, dry, hard woods for the fire. With the restrictions most of us face on transporting wood, our selection is often limited to whatever is available at or near the campground. If what they have is wet (creates more smoke), fresh (burns smokey), or a soft wood like pine (burns smokey), there is nothing we can do about that! In reality, few people know these things, and those that do are still limited by the regulations that inhibit the options.
mowermech wrote: Approximately 1% of the population of the United States is allergic to peanuts; therefore, no peanut products may be served in school lunchrooms, and all products that are processed in the same factories as peanuts must have an allergy warning on them!
My daughter's best friend in school is one of those with the peanut allergy. The school was previously not willing to do much to keep her safe (they refused to have an epi-pen provided by her parents on hand in the office). She is now only in second grade and certainly was not able to keep herself safe.
In first grade one of the parents of a child in the same class brought in Reece's peanut butter cups in a gift bag for each child. She ate one. The doctors in the emergency room said next time she won't be so lucky, she will be dead. If she eats a peanut butter cup she will die. She is not capable, yet, of taking care of herself. Not allowing peanut products to be served in the lunchroom is a very small price to pay to keep her alive.
The school now takes this more seriously. They now keep the epi-pen in the office...
K3WE wrote: Ok, there's two factors- "intolerance", but also "ignorance"- and I don't mean that in the ugly sense.
I remember a recent thread- why in the heck would someone buy a "sewer tote"?
So much of the "why generator", "why campfire", "why pink flamingo and canopy lights" are that folks don't recognize the huge diversity of what RVing is. Boon dockers, back-to-nature "camping", RVing with retired folks and the community center, camping at the football game, going to the races, state fair, all of these are very different activities.
I don't have sewer tote- have never needed one and am not out to get one, but I can see where folks have perfectly valid needs for them. (I do agree that a lot of these posts come with a bad attitude- an implication that the person using the sewer tote, running the genny, or having the campfire is some sort of idiot.
I started a post of this topic, and I was looking for the reasons why they did it.. I was just curious and wanted to know 'why'... I got it answered and folks came up with very valid reasons for doing so. There were those responses like "don't you have any thing better to do" and "why do you care" of course they were the majority of the 'answers' and took my original post completely out of context..
I was only trying to get some feedback from those that do use them and simply stated my reasons for not wanting to use one.
I suppose anything that's typed on an open forum can be read in different ways to mean different things to different people and I might have made it sound like a 'rant', but I was truly looking for the answers that about 1/3 of the replies provided..
Without questions, there would be no answers and an otherwise pretty dull place to hang out (RV.NET).
I do see the point to Dick A's post and appreciate it, as I do agree 100% with it and have noticed it going on too... I might have even contributed to many of them!
Oh well, nice post and glad it's something to contribute to!
Mitch
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mowermech wrote: Approximately 1% of the population of the United States is allergic to peanuts; therefore, no peanut products may be served in school lunchrooms, and all products that are processed in the same factories as peanuts must have an allergy warning on them!
My daughter's best friend in school is one of those with the peanut allergy. The school was previously not willing to do much to keep her safe (they refused to have an epi-pen provided by her parents on hand in the office). She is now only in second grade and certainly was not able to keep herself safe.
In first grade one of the parents of a child in the same class brought in Reece's peanut butter cups in a gift bag for each child. She ate one. The doctors in the emergency room said next time she won't be so lucky, she will be dead. If she eats a peanut butter cup she will die. She is not capable, yet, of taking care of herself. Not allowing peanut products to be served in the lunchroom is a very small price to pay to keep her alive.
The school now takes this more seriously. They now keep the epi-pen in the office...
With all due respect, this was a shortcoming and failure of that school, since a small child might eat something and not even know it contains a peanut product it is a reasonable accomodation for the school to have kept this epi-pen even before something tragic could have occurred, and not an apples to apples comparison to the campfire topic where we are talking about grown adults making the decision to camp in a campground full of fire rings when they know they (or their child) have asthma and cannot tolerate smoke. I know you are responding to the post about peanuts and cafeterias, but IMO they are not a congruent analogy.
JayWalker2009 wrote: ...I know you are responding to the post about peanuts and cafeterias, but IMO they are not a congruent analogy.
You are correct on both accounts, and that was one of the reasons for my post. It is not a good analogy. That, and it is obviously a very important topic for me.
Thanks Dick ... isn't that the joy of RVing. If you don't like where you are, you can move. You don't have to make a big deal out of it. When I was working, I always had some place I needed to go or something I needed to do if I needed to get out of a meeting or away from someone or ones. Life is too short to not enjoy your freedom
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