Jim Cindy wrote: Those china bombs have to come off immediately. There has to be some kind of warranty on a 2012. Go see your dealer and work with him to upgrade your tires with some amount of credit for your current tires.
Your dealer or the manufacturer should be able to tell you the capacity of the wheels if you cannot find the code on them. Warranty on our original china bombs was basically worthless.
We are very happy with our G614's. Approx. 13k miles on a 7 month trip.
Give us some facts on why what you call "china bombs" have to come off immdiately. It is not real smart to replace tires and waste hard earned money on tires that do not need to be replaced just because of where they are made.
If your current tires are rated @ 3580 then you should be able to use the G614 tire. I replaced all the chinese tires on my Cedar Creek before we ever started fulltiming. They have worked very well and the only problem we have had was a nail. We bought our @ Sam's Club, but we had to take them in two at a time for mounting and balancing.The G614's don't have ribs so the tires don't grab as much on short turns.
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skipnchar wrote: The "wadding up" of your tires is common on EVERY duel axle trailer. Neither axle is a steering axle so they simply pivot to turn (the sharper the turn the more the tires take the stress). Since they must pivot AND since they cannot pivot on tow points (each axle) at the same time, they simply DRAG each other through the turn. It is a MAJOR reason that ST rated tires fail as often as they do and is ALSO the reason ST rated tires have much stronger side walls than about any other type of tire built (yes even LT tires). It is possible that this effect is the cause of the bubbles (along with poor quality control in Chinese tire manufacturing. My suggestion is to IMMEDIATELY get them off of your trialer and replace all four tires with some QUALITY tires like the Maxxis brand ST rated tire. FAR AND AWAY the best trailer tire on the market. Even CONSIDERING keeping bad tires is a huge mistake regardless of WHAT brand they are and when they're Chinese tires like yours, even worse.
Good luck / Skip
Tell me where you get all of this information on why tires fail. This sounds like just your personal opinion and not facts. I have never seen any factual information on tire failures that you are stating.
jimbo7 wrote: Hi guys and gals
I've been a member here for many years and have got much needed and great information from you.
We changed from a motorhome to a fiver this last summer and have gone fulltiming. We bought a new Brookstone Diamond edition by Coachmen.
We love the new lifstyle and we love the fiver. We have had a few small things that I fixed my self and next week we are taking it in to have both recliners and the couch cushions replaced. But the one main concerne that I have is the tires. Not long after we got the fiver I noticed that the tires were low on the left side and thought it just wasn't maxed up when we got it so filled em up. A couple weeks later the rearleft one was low again so got to looking and found on the inside ther were two realy large bubbles on the sidewall
(the size of oranges).
I noticed that when backing into a tight spot that that rear tire was really squashing sideways. Do you think that would cause a good brand of tires to be damaged? These are Free Star tires and I don't want to spend money to get new ones.
My rims don't have a tire pressue rating on them but they do have maximum load @ 3580 lbs. do you think that Goodyear G614's with 110 lb of presure would be ok on these rims?
Sorry about the long post but I've read just about every thing on this subject and still have questions.
thanks,
Jim
Coachman, if they choose to warrant the tires, will most likely only replace with like tires. I would insist on credit for what they want to put on and get a good set of US-made tires. The "scrubbing" really should not hurt the tires; it's done at low speed, so heat build-up is not an issue. I'd always more concerned of rolling the tire off the bead in that situation. I've talked to several people who keep a small bucket or bag of sand in their rig to spread on the ground if they get into that tight a situation. Either way, you should replace the tires. Maybe talk to your dealer and see if they'll help, too.
Lyle
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I don't know if you have considered, but you need to put the proper weight range tires on that thing. 3,000 lbs per tire is the minimum, and even that is a little low.
From your description, I doubt that tire scrubbing when turning caused the bubbling, I think it is poor mfg'ing. I wouldn't trust the tires to take me across the street. If that rig is still new, I would take the previous advice and get the dealer to give you credit and put the proper tires on. From what I have read here and elsewhere, Chinese tires seem to be at the bottom of the reliability list.
Please don't spend your own money on those tires,they are warrentied.That said my china bombs blistered just like that at 2 years old so I replaced them with uniroyals which are now 3 years old and perfect.Just finished a 10,000 mile trip on them most recently.
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2007 Open Road 378SA4S-5,equa-flex and morryde X factor,wet bolt kit,michelin ltx M/S 2 tires
Thanks for all of the advise. When the tire went bad I called the dealer about it and was told when " you find the tire dealer see if they will waranty them. We can't help you with the tires" so I went to a dealer that didn't sell that brand and he made a couple of calls for me and told me that they were not covered because they always claim it is a road hazard. He said that it wasn't, but thats the way the get around warantying them.
I have spent the day doing some reserch on my wheels and they are rated for 110 lbs. So I will probably bite the bullet and buy a whole set of new G614 tires. Camping world has a twenty dollar rebate that lasts till the end of Dec.
JIMBO & JOJO
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2006 F-350 FORD POWERSTROKE
As others have said, tires get bent backing up, but should not hurt them.
As far as pressure, I have checked with several wheel manufacturers and was told they stamp pressure OR weight rating on wheel. Since you know the stock tire size, and tire manufactuerers web site will convert between the two numbers, it is simple to determine max pressure. So, what size were the stock tires?
Chuck
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According to the specs for your fiver it’s GVWR is 15,500#. So the axles must be somewhere between 6750# - 7000# - Each axle will have a certification label attached to it . That rules out all of the LT tires except the LT235/85R16G which provides 3750# of load capacity at 110 psi. But, your wheels are not rated for that load capacity so you will have to get new ones for the LRG tires. Remember, rims MUST be able to support the pressure rating and load capacity of the tires mounted on them. They should be marked. If not, call the rim manufacturer and verify their load and pressure capacities.
There are a number of causes for the large blisters on your tires. The simple ones are, overweight, under inflation, over heating from excessive speed, or a tire defect. There are more.
This one was certified a tire defect by a Goodyear tire tech.
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