JimmyD

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I have the same issue, replacing a Penguin 630035 unit, combination AC and heat pump. As I understand it, I should be able to replace the "old" 5-button control with the new 12-button control. Would I have to run a new wire for that or can I use the existing wiring to the old thermostat? If I do this replacement, then I should be able to buy the standard Penguin 15K BTU AC/Heat pump, yes? My unit has ducting. Does that make a difference in the unit that I purchase? I talked with a person at Dometic (very unhelpful) and she told me about the conversion kit, but also said that I would need a model 651816CXX1C0. I don't understand why I would need a custom model.
Finally, Dometic list a HP model that seems to be a completely different design. Could I install that model and what would that entail?
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dougrainer

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JimmyD wrote: I have the same issue, replacing a Penguin 630035 unit, combination AC and heat pump. As I understand it, I should be able to replace the "old" 5-button control with the new 12-button control. Would I have to run a new wire for that or can I use the existing wiring to the old thermostat? If I do this replacement, then I should be able to buy the standard Penguin 15K BTU AC/Heat pump, yes? My unit has ducting. Does that make a difference in the unit that I purchase? I talked with a person at Dometic (very unhelpful) and she told me about the conversion kit, but also said that I would need a model 651816CXX1C0. I don't understand why I would need a custom model.
Finally, Dometic list a HP model that seems to be a completely different design. Could I install that model and what would that entail?
Any help appreciated.
1. IF you have just 1 roof top unit, just order the new replacement and you will have to purchase the NEW 12 button tstat. The communication cables are the same. That P/n number is NOT a custom model but how they designate the Model. The xx in the model will have numbers as they are what determines the model Compressor that is used. They have different suppliers for compressors and they add the correct numbers to the model in place of the X's so they can track if they find a problem down the road. IF you have 2 roof top units then the NEW unit will need the conversion kit. Doug
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zb39 wrote: I have the coach in my sig. 3 roof airs, Dometic model 630516.321 I have a digital tstat with 3 zones. Back AC does not get cold anymore but the heat does work. All ducted, front 2 AC's work great. What are my options, I do like the way it is set up now and would prefer to keep it that way. Thanks..
If Heat Pump, the odds are the Electric Reversing solenoid is bad. Have it checked and If the reversing solenoid is bad replace it. Doug
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I have the coach in my sig. 3 roof airs, Dometic model 630516.321 I have a digital tstat with 3 zones. Back AC does not get cold anymore but the heat does work. All ducted, front 2 AC's work great. What are my options, I do like the way it is set up now and would prefer to keep it that way. Thanks..
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Louisa wrote: What if he has two roof units. I have to replace our #1 penguin 15000 btu unit, which came with a ducted 2005 Mountain Aire, and am wondering if this is difficult to handle by oneself. Are the current units the same as ours? Do they require any special modifications or rewiring? We have a 5 button control, but I'm also wondering if the new controls would allow us to adjust the temp from the bedroom(we have physical problems that make that difficult).
The NEW Penguin will have the 12 button CCC board. You must purchase a retro kit to modify and remove the 12 button to use your 5 button. Your 5 button DOES allow you to control the bedroom seperately. ZONE 2 IS the bedroom. Zone 1 is the Lining room. But if your question is can you mount the tstat 5 button unit in the bedroom, you can with some modification from the rear AC unit to the inside. You disconnect the wall tstat up front from the control phone type cable and then you run a Phone type cable from the rear AC to somewhere in the bedroom. Doug
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What if he has two roof units. I have to replace our #1 penguin 15000 btu unit, which came with a ducted 2005 Mountain Aire, and am wondering if this is difficult to handle by oneself. Are the current units the same as ours? Do they require any special modifications or rewiring? We have a 5 button control, but I'm also wondering if the new controls would allow us to adjust the temp from the bedroom(we have physical problems that make that difficult).
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Does the new 12 button CCC board also control the coach's gas furnace, like the old Dometic Penguin 5 button CCC does?
Looking at the specs, it appears that the 15K unit uses less current than the 13.5K.
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Is there a way to use the twelve button with both the new and old units--I assume some features would only work with the new one, but it's the workhorse in our rig.
By the way, is the twelve button hardwired or a remote? Can you get any wireless remotes for these units--like some of the higher end coaches have?
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dougrainer wrote: rgatijnet1 wrote: Does the new 12 button CCC board also control the coach's gas furnace, like the old Dometic Penguin 5 button CCC does?
Looking at the specs, it appears that the 15K unit uses less current than the 13.5K.
The 12 button is a upgrade with MORE features and yes it controls the furnace. The 12 button has outside temp sensor and the ability to program temps and On/Off times. Doug
Thank you. Are the specs correct when it says, on various locations on the Dometic literature, that the 15K unit does use less current, 12.3 AMPS for 15K and 12.5 AMPS for the 15K unit? Doesn't seem reasonable but I'm not sure what improvements that are made in the efficiency of the new 15K unit.
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rgatijnet1 wrote: Does the new 12 button CCC board also control the coach's gas furnace, like the old Dometic Penguin 5 button CCC does?
Looking at the specs, it appears that the 15K unit uses less current than the 13.5K.
The 12 button is a upgrade with MORE features and yes it controls the furnace. The 12 button has outside temp sensor and the ability to program temps and On/Off times. Doug
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