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Looks like it could be a little pin-heavy

No, Pin weight about 1000lbs. They vary from 23-29ft, this maker does not have slides, have add a room instead. Extremely diverse range of TV's can tow them.

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I looked at the website and saw that a small 5W will coast 128000 US$???? Is it correct??? or I am missing something?


That is always the problem with comparing prices from different countries, even Canada. We have no idea what their average pay scale is in US dollars. I doubt they have a $9 US minimum wage.

If that 5vr is that much, then I am guessing that an average yearly salary might be double what it is here?

Oh, and I do like that looks of it too


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Yep at $128,000 USD I think it will be a long time before they get popular here.

Neat but overpriced by about 5.5 times...


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So how many people associate SNOW with Australia?


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That is always the problem with comparing prices from different countries, even Canada. We have no idea what their average pay scale is in US dollars. I doubt they have a $9 US minimum wage.

If that 5vr is that much, then I am guessing that an average yearly salary might be double what it is here?

Oh, and I do like that looks of it too


An Ausy dollar is close to a US dollar, about 2 or 3 cents less, so not really that much different.

The Ausy cost-of-living is about 15% higher then the US (per a web-site for people planning to move there). A great deal of that would be, taxes. The VAT alone is 10%.

The Ausy minimum wage is $15.58(Aus) with a standard work week being 38 hours

From comparing a chart of Ausy wages, the wages there are not too different then here. The ranges roughly compare.

I am continually amused at people, that haven't either traveled outside the US, of if they did, didn't pay attention to the costs-of-living where they were traveling to.

Among "First" world countries, the US easily has among the lowest cost of living. Certainly among the lowest taxes.


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Yep at $128,000 USD I think it will be a long time before they get popular here.

Neat but overpriced by about 5.5 times...


Can't always judge by over-seas prices, what they would be in the US

A friend owns a store in Canada. There is a lathe, made in Canada that, due to the costs of getting it to him, and selling it, in Canada, costs more there then imported to the US and sold by a US dealer.

When I bought my New Zealand made lathe, I paid 20% less for it then the New Zealand retail cost.

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Quick question, RobertRyan, does Australia have restriction on size (height,width and length)?


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The Ausy minimum wage is $15.58(Aus) with a standard work week being 38 hours

From comparing a chart of Ausy wages, the wages there are not too different then here. The ranges roughly compare.

That is not what a lot of people get US65,000 is the mean , not average wage. I compared salaries/wages for a lot of similar jobs in Australia to the US ones when I was there, and they were half or a lot lower.House prices very much lower and Automobiles marginally cheaper.Also State cost situations vary a lot. A Vastly greater disparity in incomes in the US than Australia.

High prices for local 5vers is governed by several factors:
They are a recent innovation locally(Although there were 5vers in Australia in 1949).
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Believe me, you really have it good here and it both irritates and intrigues me as to why so many Americans are constantly complaining! Must be they just simply don't know the facts.
From my experience, Australia falls roughly half way between the USA and Europe in cost of living etc and purchasing power of their money and kudos to the Aussies as they can have a considerably more adventuresome life style to enjoy than the Europeans. Lifestyle as Americans understand the meaning

Well If they saw some of the areas I experienced in the US, they would be "irritated" as well. Some areas of the US are nice, but it appears the middle class is shrinking rapidly.There are vast poor areas of the US. General infrastructure as a whole being very run down.I went over that bridge in the Twin Cities that fell down a month after I went over it.
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What we think of as a "small 5th wheel we no slides" over here would be at a cost of a small fraction of the $128,000 price tag of such in Australia.

There are RV's we have here that do not exist in the US. That is why I get, why can why we cannot have that here?

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n7bsn,

Well said/stated!

The people in the USA mostly don't have any idea what it"s like in other countries as they just think they have it so bad here. Our son owned a medium sized manufacturing company in England for several years and we got to know how the European/England/etc economy worked and their tax structure for both workers and businesses and it's a real shock as to the differences. Yes, we have been there and in many parts of the British Isles etc. Taxes over there are approximately double the taxes here and store/grocery/food prices are 1.5 to 2.5 times the average price here as is automotive fuels etc. Then there's variuos Gov fees and very high insurance premium rates and costly regulations to contend with. All this is with the average worker's wages being very close to the same comparable per hour pay rate to here in the USA. A dollar doesn't go very far there to say the least. However to make it worse, their actual take home pay is so much lower than ours due the the much higher payroll tax rate that's subtracted before they get their check or a direct deposit. Believe me, you really have it good here and it both irritates and intrigues me as to why so many Americans are constantly complaining! Must be they just simply don't know the facts.

Funny how the grass always looks so much greener on the other side of the fence, that is until you get over there! Why do you think so many people in other countries are trying so hard to get here? From my experience, Australia falls roughly half way between the USA and Europe in cost of living etc and purchasing power of their money and kudos to the Aussies as they can have a considerably more adventuresome life style to enjoy than the Europeans. Lifestyle as Americans understand the meaning...

What we think of as a "small 5th wheel we no slides" over here would be at a cost of a small fraction of the $128,000 price tag of such in Australia.


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My UK experience is exactly as you describe, London being even more painful then the rural areas. I can recall paying (three years ago) $12(US) a load of laundry, at the closest coin-op to our Kensington B&B. In our travels through the rural areas of the UK we found prices to be "affordable" (at least by London measures).

We were staying in a good quality hotel, in "the north", in one of the old "working" towns. Then the restaurant started up the evening Karaoke we asked our waitress if we could take our deserts up to our room (they didn't have room service). She replied that they didn't usually allow that, but they she would check. She asked her boss and was told yes, so, as we left, we gave her a tip, and had to EXPLAIN what it was for... as opposed to places in London that just added a 15% tip to the bill.

It was near this town that I saw I 32 ft Bounder sitting in some-ones yard.

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