I have been following all of the threads regarding using Red Max Pro #3 (a floor coating) to enhance the appearance of RV's. I have even used it myself on my RV with great results. Red Max Pro is a private label product through Lowes. The product originates from Zep products, from a division called "Enforcer Commercial Products".
I spent a day tracking down the supply chain and found someone to talk to at Enforcer. I had a nice long conversation with him, and they are aware of their product being used as an RV product, and everyone at Enforcer is pretty amused that it has caught on so well for a use that is was never intended.
He went on to tell me that this use was brought up to their head chemist, and the chemist "shuddered" at the thought that this product was being used in an outdoor application. The chemist said that this product was never developed for use outdoors and he cannot recommend it for use on RV's or any other outdoor use. I can only assume that it has something to do with UV rays or something along those lines. I guess, if it gets on windows, that is a real problem to get off. I didn't have that problem. It was actually pretty easy to apply with great "short term results.
Further, I was told the Red Max brand may very well be phased out, as this is more of a commercial product, and Lowes is more consumer driven. I had heard rumblings to that effect on various forums, here and others.
I will be having a teleconference with their head of marketing tomorrow 12-9 to discuss the future of this product, and to see if there is the possibility of "adapting" Red Max 3 to be more suitable for outdoor use and to focus on the RV and Marine market place. Naturally, it all depends on how large the market is, and if it would be viable to produce on a large scale, even though the RV market is a niche market at best.
I can see it now...Red Max Pro RV.
I will report back if I have any additional interesting findings.
Further, I was told the Red Max brand may very well be phased out, as this is more of a commercial product, and Lowes is more consumer driven. I had heard rumblings to that effect on various forums, here and others.
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Interesting!
But while we wait for further developments:
Can you clarify the above quoted statement?
I'm interpreting it to mean that Loews may be ending its offering of the product for the average consumer...
Or is it that the manufacturer intends to top stop making it at all?
Do keep us posted- When I first heard of this use of Redmax, I wondered how it would hold up in an off-label use outdoors...
I've been following some threads elsewhere by folks reporting how it's holding up, and so far so good seems to be the norm.
I will say that I haven't read anything by someone that's had it on for more than about a year and a half, though.
" Not every mind that wanders is lost. " With apologies toJ.R.R. Tolkien
Further, I was told the Red Max brand may very well be phased out, as this is more of a commercial product, and Lowes is more consumer driven. I had heard rumblings to that effect on various forums, here and others.
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Interesting!
But while we wait for further developments:
Can you clarify the above quoted statement?
I'm interpreting it to mean that Loews may be ending its offering of the product for the average consumer...
Or is it that the manufacturer intends to top stop making it at all?
Do keep us posted- When I first heard of this use of Redmax, I wondered how it would hold up in an off-label use outdoors...
I've been following some threads elsewhere by folks reporting how it's holding up, and so far so good seems to be the norm.
I will say that I haven't read anything by someone that's had it on for more than about a year and a half, though.
I doubt that Zep would drop their "Wet Look" version of the product since they do sell heavily into the commercial building maintenance market. Lowes may certainly stop buying the Red Max Pro private labeled version though.
Sorry. What I meant was that the "Red Max Pro" line, private labeled for Lowes, may go away. There is still the Zep brand at Home Depot. They will continue under the Zep name as far as I know.
What was most interesting in the conversation was they were very concerned about the long term effects, especially when it was only designed to be used indoors. The word "Liability" came up several times.
It's gonna be a bear to remove "IF" it proves to be a problem. It's great that someone stepped up to the plate to clarify the outdoor use apps for this product.
It has worked great on mine for the half year that I have had it on, but I found that it won't take hard scrubbing when cleaning bugs off, and going into thick brush with the trailer while hunting makes a mark also. I have found most things to be an easy fix though with cleaning and a couple of new layers. If they are worried about it turning a little darker may be a problem for the white rigs, mine is a yellowish tinge to start with. I guess in a way, it is nice to have an old classic rig.
Mike
2003 Dodge 2500 CTD, 4X4,
1994 Alpenlite 26'fifth wheel
See picture in profile.
This is a blast to read the NOBODY, including the people that have developed this, have a clue as to how this will look on exterior applications in a long term view, let's say years vs. "I put it one six months ago and it looks great."
It is not unusual for a manufacturer not to know how well a product will last under conditions they did not plan on. The good news is that it comes off. I myself used Mop-N-Glo with good results so far but if it starts to yellow or whatever, strip it and do it again. The resulting shine is so worth the effort.
I think they were saying it wasn't developed for this use nor was it tested for this use and we don't sell it for this use thereby we are not responsible for the results if it goes bad.
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