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Everyone always wants to blame the "frame manufacturer" when there is a problem......

The RV manufacturer specs out the frames they order from the frame manufacturer.

If they build the RV and there is a lot more weight on the frame than the frame was built for, whose "fault" would that be??


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To the OP, yes, I have dropped the front skin on the overhang.
It is a relatively easy job taking it down. It does require 2 people to actually remove the skin just because of it's size. It is not heavy just hard to handle by yourself.

Putting it back is another story. I am sure the factory guys can do it alot quicker than I did. It took about 4 hours to get everything lined backed, reinstall the screws and caulk everything.

To drop it, ,
1)at least on my trailer, remove all the rubber molding covering the screws. lay them down flat in the sun so they are pliable when you reinstall them.
2) Remove all the screws around the front storage compartment and remove the door and frame assembly.
3) If you have a light under the pin box, remove the mounting screws, disconnect the wires and remove light fixture.
4)Remove any trim you have around the pin box.
5) Remove all screws from perimeter trim and front cap. When you begin to drop the skin, start at the bottom below the storage door opening. Pull it down and towards the front of the trailer, this will remove the skin from the front cap.

This is what you will see-



Back together-



Going back up, just reverse the order. Getting the skin above the front cap was the hardest part for me. Once it is in place above the cap, it was easy to get everything else lined up.
Hope this helps.

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Thanks Southern Nights. That is the answer I was looking for. Great pics


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Just as a side note, here is one thing I did once I had the skin dropped.


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ScottG wrote:

301TBS wrote:

Scott G...what is welding backwards. i have done mig and arc welding as a small part of my pfofession and looked at my A frame tounge to rail welds today. i would b ashamed if i had done them. will have touched up in spring. maybe they were backwards??


Basically instead of building up the weld as your proceed, the welder just drags it backwards like spreading caulk.



I retired recently with just over 42 years in steel fabrication, and I am a little lost on your analogy , welding backwards ? Dragging it ,pushing it, what are you trying to say ?

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js24 wrote:

Everyone always wants to blame the "frame manufacturer" when there is a problem......

The RV manufacturer specs out the frames they order from the frame manufacturer.

If they build the RV and there is a lot more weight on the frame than the frame was built for, whose "fault" would that be??



I would think both were to blame but this isn't what happenes from what I read on this forum.
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ReverendCharles wrote:

Last I heard their failure rate was .0001 of 1%. I better pull the underbelly on my new tt that was in an side layover and front impact accident (Lippert frame). The collision shop said the frame was in perfect alignment even after being handled by a wrecker crane to stand it up on its wheels. I wonder if a lot of the frame problems are from consumers trying to force (wedge) a trailer into a tight space. I bought a Cougar 27RLS used and sold it 2 years later for the same price as I paid. Why is Cougar the #1 trailer that holds resale value?


But that 1% is what could get some people kill! Why not take a safety move to keep this from happing. It only takes so Meany lives to get safety laws on the book. Why is that?


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B W M wrote:

ReverendCharles wrote:

Last I heard their failure rate was .0001 of 1%. I better pull the underbelly on my new tt that was in an side layover and front impact accident (Lippert frame). The collision shop said the frame was in perfect alignment even after being handled by a wrecker crane to stand it up on its wheels. I wonder if a lot of the frame problems are from consumers trying to force (wedge) a trailer into a tight space. I bought a Cougar 27RLS used and sold it 2 years later for the same price as I paid. Why is Cougar the #1 trailer that holds resale value?


But that 1% is what could get some people kill! Why not take a safety move to keep this from happing. It only takes so Meany lives to get safety laws on the book. Why is that?



You have some facts on what you are saying, I read a lot about cracked frames, etc etc ,but not anything about fatalities caused from cracked frames, pin boxes etc. Possible ,sure, but is it happening .

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We had to have our,s repaired whilst on a journey, so the undercover and side mouldings got a bit damaged. Now we're home We have removed it again and will get it inspected and further strengthened as needed. We also intend to replace some of the undercover with see through Perspex around the pin box area for easy inspection in the future. ( Our frame was found to be to thin for Australian roads and we had to fit a air hitch as well.)

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I am no expert but have bean told if welding on frame to do so at 45 angle not wertical as this wekens frame or only to do spot welds not fully weld.


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