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I gotta say I really don't like that truck at all. It would be beautiful without the second wheels on the front. That makes it hideous to me.


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Posted: 12/23/11 04:34am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I disagree that any extra stress would be on the front end components as long as the front tires could track properly. If anything, I'm thinking it might be more sturdy. Moving the anchor point out never weakened a structure. Convince me that I am wrong, I read this forum to learn. Yes, it is homely, and you would never find a fender to both cover them and let them turn. And yes, some punk as someone put it would drool over it, but weren't we all punks at some point? Or at least young? Just saying........


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LA Blvd cruiser that will never see a mud puddle. I wish I had the money something like that will surely bring!


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Jarlaxle wrote:

whisperide wrote:

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I would rather have some 435-40-17's or some such size equal than duals! Same width, but better traction all around in ALL conditions.

Altho a kewl pic none the less.

Marty

I found a few real tires: Coker's Pro-Trac still has 515/45-15, at 32.8" diameter by 17.2" of tread width, OR Pirelli has a 385/35R24 at 34.6" diameter, that requires wheels 13-15" wide, rated to 2760# each.
Both are fully treaded for rain use, but the 515s are known to hydroplane like no dually ever has.


Why go small? Get some nice 445/65R22.5 super singles!


One could go with the SS tires, but at what 40 or so inches in diam, makes the bed of a pickup on the tall side of things. I was toying with a 32-33" diam tire that is also about 18-20" wide like a SS in a pickup size diam. The 445 part would work, the 65 part is probably a bit tall, and the 22.5 is way tall in the course of things. hence my approx size of a 435-40-17, which is of all things, 30.65" diam if I did the math correct, so a good size single Dual if you will for a pickup!

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whisperide wrote:

blt2ski wrote:

I would rather have some 435-40-17's or some such size equal than duals! Same width, but better traction all around in ALL conditions.

Altho a kewl pic none the less.

Marty

I found a few real tires: Coker's Pro-Trac still has 515/45-15, at 32.8" diameter by 17.2" of tread width, OR Pirelli has a 385/35R24 at 34.6" diameter, that requires wheels 13-15" wide, rated to 2760# each.
Both are fully treaded for rain use, but the 515s are known to hydroplane like no dually ever has.


Why go small? Get some nice 445/65R22.5 super singles!


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It is for those "Ranchers/Farmers" that have the ALL WHEEL drive Tractors!!!! You know the ones with Duallys all around. Have to keep up with the BEST and Latest.
Oh, someone will make fender extenders for it and keep that paint job in good shape.

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Posted: 12/24/11 08:15am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

bucky wrote:

I disagree that any extra stress would be on the front end components as long as the front tires could track properly. If anything, I'm thinking it might be more sturdy. Moving the anchor point out never weakened a structure. Convince me that I am wrong, I read this forum to learn. Yes, it is homely, and you would never find a fender to both cover them and let them turn. And yes, some punk as someone put it would drool over it, but weren't we all punks at some point? Or at least young? Just saying........
With very basic engineering principles, or even just basic high school physics knowledge, you would know that increasing the distance at which a load is placed on a structure, increases the torque on that structure and thus the bending moment and fracturing stress of the material and connections of the structure.


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Remember from HS, force x mass = acceleration, and from my C9-B Navy Loadmaster days, weight x arm (distance) = moment ( place and amount of effect). Exact same concept as why we move things around in the RV to affect the TV in different ways.


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Posted: 12/24/11 09:30am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

SoCalDesertRider wrote:

bucky wrote:

I disagree that any extra stress would be on the front end components as long as the front tires could track properly. If anything, I'm thinking it might be more sturdy. Moving the anchor point out never weakened a structure. Convince me that I am wrong, I read this forum to learn. Yes, it is homely, and you would never find a fender to both cover them and let them turn. And yes, some punk as someone put it would drool over it, but weren't we all punks at some point? Or at least young? Just saying........
With very basic engineering principles, or even just basic high school physics knowledge, you would know that increasing the distance at which a load is placed on a structure, increases the torque on that structure and thus the bending moment and fracturing stress of the material and connections of the structure.


Yeah, the side loads placed on the front axle bearings alone from the outb'd tires can whip out a axle bearing in a hurry.

At best a great looking show/no go truck with a dual wheel front end setup like that.


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