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Posted: 02/02/12 07:48pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Thanks, crab, I'm having a lot of fun with it. Stay tuned for putting some Cowboy into the Hilton, that will be along in a couple of weeks.


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My work schedule has been getting in my way for the past couple of weeks but someone postponed on me, today so I dove back in to get some more done.
I completed the polystyrene installation in the walls, last week. By the last count there are over 100 individual pieces between the studs, very few of them that were parallel on the sides, some as much as 3/4" out so every cavity was measured and a piece cut so that there are very few gaps. Whatever crack remains is filled with adhesive so that there is no airflow between the framing and the insulation board.



I've also started on the ceiling where two layers of the same 1" board are installed below 1" of fiberglass batt.



During the work, I've had time to think how I'll be using the Hilton and what will be going where. Two things that I forgot were receptacles dedicated for a refridgerator and a microwave. One outlet is next to the vent hood and another under the countertop. I could have used the existing recepatacles I've installed but I thought dedicated branches for these would be best and I sized each of them to 20 amps.

Vent hood location:


Under countertop location:


After wiring these locations the walls were buttoned back up and all is pink again:


If anyone hasn't figured out that I'm a dedicated scrounger, I hereby confess. I'm always on the lookout for discarded materials and I ran across these cabinets, last week. Nothing terribly wrong with them ( one has one of the doors removed but I have it, along with the shelves)and I may install them later.



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Thanks for the update. Very interesting. Reminds me of the rebuild I did in the 70's when my Tag-Along rotted out in the back & I had to rebuild it. Good job.


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Looks great man! I'm currently doing the same thing to a 1981 Sunlite 17.5. Lots of work. Amazing the******you find when you pull one of these apart.


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Thanks guys, I'm trying to do a good job on this.

UP, I saw your thread about the Sunlite restoration and I'll definitely agree, more work just seems to pop up. I knew that this TT had major issues so I planned to gut the whole thing at the start. What I didn't estimate correctly was the pace of the work, it is not like building, say, a frame house, where there is abundant room and most of the pieces are similar. Also, a guy has to keep convenience in mind, i.e. how is one going to use this part of the TT and what do I do to make sure that nothing else is in it's way. I'm somewhat ahead of the game, in that, my wife, the Polish Princess, has no input as to amenities and this build is strictly a "guy thing". What woman would like to have a saddle stool in front of her dinette, lol?

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Your first post was barely a month ago, that is an impressive amount of work!


Its kind of ugly but at least its not aerodynamic.

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"...Two things that I forgot were receptacles dedicated for a refrigerator and a microwave..."

This is why I like reading others postings

While I haven't started on wiring yet, reading your postings reminded me to make plans for the Fantastic fan wires and an outside GFCI.


I like the look of those used cabinets... I guess the weight would be the thing holding me back?



We're getting ready for a little ski trip to CO, leaving later today, back next week.
I'm already wanting to tinker w/ Diddums but there are things to be done before I can leave.

I expect when I get back you'll be slapping in Luan walls and getting ready for cabinets


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hilandfrog wrote:

"...Two things that I forgot were receptacles dedicated for a refrigerator and a microwave..."

This is why I like reading others postings

While I haven't started on wiring yet, reading your postings reminded me to make plans for the Fantastic fan wires and an outside GFCI.


I like the look of those used cabinets... I guess the weight would be the thing holding me back?



We're getting ready for a little ski trip to CO, leaving later today, back next week.
I'm already wanting to tinker w/ Diddums but there are things to be done before I can leave.

I expect when I get back you'll be slapping in Luan walls and getting ready for cabinets


Repo

Hey, you're on the road, good deal! Yeah, even with pre-planning, I forgot a few things. The other wrinkle is where in the process do I add something that is a necesity? Trying to be as efficient about the total process means that I have to keep a lot of mental-plates spinning. For instance: I will need to add a blackwater tank vent since I vacated the original. It will be more efficient to do this when the luan is on the ceiling because I can cut the hole through all of the material instead of trying to locate the hole in four layers of material.

I'm still on the fence about the salvaged cabinets. If anything, I may build another face frame and use a set of leaded glass cabinet doors that I have. It would kind of keep to the vintage western look I'm after.

One of the detriments to cabinets with solid doors is that they become a cold-sink, I've found. This can be just an inconvenience or it can become a real pain. If your fresh water tank is inboard (like mine), enclosing it in cabinetry without a heat source may lead to very cold water or even freeze-up. I've camped in subzero conditions where all of the liquid foodstuff that was packed into a compartment turned into ice. These closed compartments also tend to keep the interior space colder, I've found. I did find a solution to this, recently. At a visit to a textile outlet, I found a plastic wall covering material that looked very sturdy and would make for a good surface for inboard compartment fronts. It has a weave that should let heated air pass through into the compartments and still look attractive. I can build frames for this material and staple it onto the back of the frame. This should allow to eliminate some of the cold spots, eliminate the weight of a solid door or front, and be easy to build. We'll see.

I have about half or better of the ceiling polystyrene board in place. It is slow-going, there are 8-10 pieces in each cavity and there are 15 rafter cavities. That is 120-150 pieces of pink board in the ceiling. The good news is that my utility knife skills are getting really good and the Hilton is getting very quiet.

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Westend I can totally relate to the pace of these trailer renovations. Being a building contractor I'm used to knocking jobs out quick, but holy cow working on my TT is taking forever it seems. One thing always leads to another. No place to buy anything camper related around here either so I'm often waiting for internet buys to get here. Good thing is I won't need it until May which give me plenty of time to finish. Keep up the good work!

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U.P. BLDR wrote:

Westend I can totally relate to the pace of these trailer renovations. Being a building contractor I'm used to knocking jobs out quick, but holy cow working on my TT is taking forever it seems. One thing always leads to another. No place to buy anything camper related around here either so I'm often waiting for internet buys to get here. Good thing is I won't need it until May which give me plenty of time to finish. Keep up the good work!

Yeah, the space limitations and scheduling/planning change the game, don't they? I could have sided a couple of houses in the time I have into insulating the Hilton.
Since I've worked off blueprints for years, I took the time to draw up framing and electrical prints. Those were soon sitting inside a folder and I haven't looked at them but a couple of times,lol. I'm just hoping that I haven't forgotten a crucial detail. As it is, a lot of the work is beyond what Starcraft had built, originally, and I'm hoping it makes this trailer more livable. The Internet is just a real Godsend, IMO. This Forum and a few others have helped me muddle through a few issues and, with a lot of surfing, have turned up the parts I'm needing. PPL Motorhomes has a fairly broad range of parts and I scored the blackwater tank gaskets from them. Delivery time was very short, a few days, IIRC. Most of the other generic pieces I've either had in storage or was able to source through local sellers. I've also been lucky fixing what was original, the vent fan and water pump were easily repaired.
I'm hoping that I get my current work schedule caught up by the end of the weekend so I can get back to trailer work and am able to make some decent progress. Keep the faith, UP! Maybe we'll be parked next to each other this summer.

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