Jarlaxle
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Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:Unless you want to only by one car every 10 years. A diesel will out last a gas engine, requires less maintenance and my old TDI was fast and fun to drive.
I would buy a diesel car in a minute and not think twice about it.
Don
So lemme see if I have this straight: I pay $7,000 more for the car, with its ticking time bomb under the hood (I recall the TDI uses the same problematic HPFP as the 6.7 PSD!), I pay 65-85 cents/gallon more for the fuel, and it gets substantially WORSE mileage than my father in law's ECOdiesel Jetta? Did Moe, Larry, Curly, or Schemp cook this one up?
Or...I pay even less for a Honda Civic (the 39MPG DX starts atc about $16K, the 40+MPG HF at $20K), and get bulletproof reliability and 40+mpg.
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hone eagle
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Jaraxle found this for you T shirt
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Jarlaxle
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Denial is an ugly thing.
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Perrysburg Dodgeboy
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Here you go click here John
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Perrysburg Dodgeboy
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Maybe you pay list price for things but I don't, local VW dealer has them on his lot for $4K off invoice.
I hope Chrysler offers the new Dart with a diesel, I would buy it in a hart beat. BTW the only time my TDi was in the shop was to replace the radio.
My Ram is selling for $19,000-$22,500 but with a gas engine they run $5,000-$7,000. Yep I sure wish I had ordered the Hemi instead of the Cummins....NOT.
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John & Angela
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A lot of the advantages of diesel will be regional depending on how diesel prices compare to gas in your area. Generally speaking diesel is the same or cheaper in Canada so some of the advantage may dissapear in the US.
Re acceleration times are deceiving as once diesels are spooled up they accelerate pretty quick. Ask anyone driving a 40 HP Smart car diesel about accelerating on freeway on ramps. The torque of the diesel is pretty effective in that speed band.
Re epa estimates of mileage. Although all cars get better mileage once they have some miles on the clock, diesels tend to jump quite a bit after 20000 to 30000 miles.
Downside is although maintenance intervals seem a little further apart they tend to be higher on an annual basis. We have three small diesels and annual costs are closer to 150 bucks. Having said that, so far that is the only expense (other than tires and light bulbs)
In my opinion diesels need to be driven a little different than a gasser. Won't go into the details but those who drive them know (probably) what I mean.
Our next car will also be a diesel. Hard to go back. Hope to drive these for the next 10 years or so though. Hard to beat the average mileage of mid 70s mpg. Ours are 2005 and 2006. The new ones get 86 average and some owners break the 100 MPG barrier.
Currently in San Diego and a couple of days ago a nice gas station employee had the courtesy to warn me I had grabbed the wrong handle and was putting diesel in our little burgermeister (nickname for our burgundy smart). Explained it to him. Nice chap. This has happened a few times in the last 5 years. 
2003 Revolution 40C Class A. 2002 Vanguard 22 foot Class C. Diesel smart car Toad or pulling a 2009 Timeout Tent Trailer.
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wilber1
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Where is diesel cheaper in Canada? I know it has been in the past but not around here for quite some time. Yesterday, I saw spreads of everywhere from 4 to ll cents a liter between regular and diesel. Still, I'm not about to get rid of my diesel car or truck any time soon.
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Jarlaxle
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Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:Maybe you pay list price for things but I don't, local VW dealer has them on his lot for $4K off invoice.
Yeah, because it's TOTALLY IMPOSSIBLE to get a Civic for less than sticker price!  Give me a break, you're just being stupid now.
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Jarlaxle wrote:Denial is an ugly thing.
You claim 7000K for diesel option ,I say unlikely , closer to $1500- 2000
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ib516 wrote:The Jeep diesels were hot sellers in Canada when they were available - diesel fuel is almost always cheaper than reg unleaded here. They had more power, were much more economical, and the fuel was cheaper. The diesels will be a hit north of the 49th for whoever comes out with them.
We have a jeep grand cherokee diesel, I was never much of jeep/chrijsler dodge fan but this truck amazes me everytime i hit the throtle on the highway, even when we ar towing our TT. This machine is a great fuel saver for us compared to the 6L gm truck we had before this.
Can't wait till the new jeep comes out with the diesel later in 2013.
http://www.worldcarfans.com/112010639489/jeep-grand-cherokee-to-get-diesel-in-2013
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