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Mark W Ingalls

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Interested parties may want to refer to this thread: Making a More Off-Road Capable Truck Camper


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BradW wrote:

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Winches aren't very useful in the desert, unless you have a boat anchor made for anchoring in sand that you can set to hook your winch to.


Two words: Pull-Pal.....or is that one word?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bI7rplrmHEM


Pull Pal is my very next purchase. Lots of deserts around here!!!


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BradW wrote:

ejfranz wrote:

As for BradW's advice for a winch.I have thought about it but It would not have helped the first time I got stuck as there was a cliff on both sides of the road - nothing to hook up to and I was solo.

Let me get this straight; you are wheelin' by yourself in a full size truck with a 2,000 kg camper in the bed with clifts on each side of the road and nothing to hook to? Were there also grizzlies circling the truck? Sounds like I may have to get my hip waders out.

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~DJ~ wrote:

BradW wrote:

SoCalDesertRider wrote:

Winches aren't very useful in the desert, unless you have a boat anchor made for anchoring in sand that you can set to hook your winch to.


Two words: Pull-Pal.....or is that one word?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bI7rplrmHEM


Pull Pal is my very next purchase. Lots of deserts around here!!!


Click the following link and scroll down to Winching with No Trees...

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My FX4 came stock with a factory rear locker. I added a front Eaton E Locker. I don't know that I would have if I had the torque of a diesel. Judging from the brute power my 05 CTD had I don't think I would.

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Mark W Ingalls wrote:

~DJ~ wrote:

BradW wrote:

SoCalDesertRider wrote:

Winches aren't very useful in the desert, unless you have a boat anchor made for anchoring in sand that you can set to hook your winch to.


Two words: Pull-Pal.....or is that one word?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bI7rplrmHEM


Pull Pal is my very next purchase. Lots of deserts around here!!!


Click the following link and scroll down to Winching with No Trees...


That is a great link Mark!!!

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Posted: 01/15/12 04:37pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

When I re-geared my f150 I installed a Detroit locker in the rear (most people hate them), and an Eaton e-locker up front. Althouh just like my last truck, I really haven't needed the front locker since the rear works so well.
A selectable locker in the front is the way to go in my opinion. When you REALLY need more traction up front, a limited slip is only going to do so much. With an e locker, you are not stressing anything when its unlocked, but have all the traction you need with a limited slip.
I love the Detroit out back because I hate driving around anywhere with an open rear differential. Limited slips are great on dry roads but beyond that, the traction often just isn't there when you need it.

I will disagree with brad though, I would take lockers over a winch any day. Both are better though of course. Since I've started locking my trucks I have only used a winch once, in about 2 feet of snow. Even then it was only because I was side slipping off the trail on a steep incline. Without lockers I never would have got anywhere near that spot and so many others.


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They still self destruct. Some of the guys in the Jeep club use them. What they do is rebuild them every few years before they wear out.


Not true about an actualTruetrac

"The Detroit Truetrac was the first helical gear differential ever introduced into the automotive aftermarket as an Eaton brand. It remains the leading helical gear-type limited slip differential in the industry. Detroit Truetrac's proven helical gear design eliminates the need for wearable parts, resulting in maintenance free traction recognized not only for its toughness, but its smooth and quiet operation as well. "


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I guess Chevy/GMC trucks must be blowing AAM 10.5" and 11.5" rear axles left and right, because GM has been putting the G80 locker in the rear axles of a large percentage of their 2500/3500 pickups for years now, with the torquey diesel engine too....


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Something I noticed on the Truetrac is that it will both transfer torque and differentiate at the same time. All lockers and clutch limited slip will attempt to rotate both axles at the same rotational speed. My Ford traction lock would easily spin one tire accelerating out of a curve then as it grabbed the other axle both would spin. That was with 3.55 gears. Now with even 4.10 gears I have a hard time getting any wheelspin in similar conditions. Truetrac seems to know exactly how much torque to transfer and yet still allow different wheel speeds. Otherwise it is hard to describe without seeing it in action. In the sand etc all four of my tires will spin similar to a locker. Locker really has its place when one tire will be completely off the ground.


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