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jk123

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Posted: 01/13/12 10:44pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Is it possible though an air pinbox or hitch and airbags on the truck to get a diesel pusher quality ride from a 5th wheel toyhauler and new F350 or equivalent.
Recently rode in a pickup towing a toyhauler and the ride was pretty horrible.

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No, the wheels hitting the bumps in the road jerk the truck. My tt doesn’t do this, it may be due to the low mount point of the hitch. You may want to try a air ride hitch.

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No. I had a F550 with a Kelderman air ride system and a Trailaire hitch with the tri-glide plate and my 18K 5'r still beat us to death on rough roads. Switched to an International 4700 low pro and it made a hugh difference. Went all the way to Alaska from Fla. with it and even with the terrible northern roads it did very well. Sold the International when we returned and bought a truck camper for traveling now. Much more enjoyable and leave the MS 5'r at home for the winter housing.


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Posted: 01/14/12 07:27am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

No, we had a MH with an 8 air bag system and now we have our fiver. We have air springs on the truck, Mor/ryde suspension and pin plus an air hitch. The ride is not as good as our MH was. In fairness we had the MH 6 years ago and our roads have really deteriorated over the years.


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Not gonna happen. there are too many variables with the pickup truck - the amount of suspension travel, the stiffness of the suspension springs/bags. Passenger coaches and their derivative diesel pushers have had much R&D into making a smooth suspension for road travel that supports the weight of the vehicle. trucks have a distinctly different design philosophy and utility. You'll have to find a specialty vehicle specifically designed for ride quality in order to even get close to the ride from a full sized coach.

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Posted: 01/14/12 08:45am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

won't get that good, but it certainly can be improved of stock hitch and pinbox with additions...

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A major cause of the problem described is low pin weight. When you haul a trailer that is too big for the TV the result is lowering the pin weight so the TV rear axle will not be overloaded. Air springs and pin boxes will help but the trailer will never tow well if the pin weight percentage is below 20%. A level trailer is also required to tow well. I see many toy haulers going down the freeway with the front at least 5 inches higher than the rear. I am sure those are a handfull to tow.

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Its the travel in the suspension. I have owned several GM 3500HDs and I do think the Chevy 2011 and 2012 has the best ride of all GM3500HD's we have owned.

I have also owned a Chevy 4500 with Air ride suspension and Air ride seats. We also had a Freightliner all air, seats, suspension, cab and Trailer Saver Air hitch on both Trucks. The best ride of all were the Chevy 4500 and the Freightliner. I really don't think installing a Link Air ride or Kelderman under a GM 3500HD would make the ride much better without adding air ride seats. I haven't owned a Kelderman system.

I do believer the Trailer Saver air ride 5th wheel hitch would greatly improve the ride of the 5th wheel. We don't have RV furniture, all Lazy Boy, we never tie anything down, and leave the Coffee pot and can opener on the counter and it never moves. I do have the Center Point air ride suspension by Lippert on the Mobile Suites, but I had the Flex system on the 2009 Suites and never had to secure anything...

I again believe its the suspension travel that helps control the road shock, it will help to dampen the road shock . And I think my 2012 Chevy 3500HD DRW's ride the best but doesn't ride like the Chevy 4500HD or the Freightliner.. I also have a heavy pin weight. And my pin box on the Suites is a standard pin box but it rides on a Trailer Saver.... Happy Trails...


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I don't know. We don't have a toy hauler, but tow a 17K fiver behind a 350 dually on a Reese 18K hitch and a MorRyde pin box and we hardly know it's back there. Have over 50K towing and have been on all kinds of roads over the years.


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luvglass wrote:

I don't know. We don't have a toy hauler, but tow a 17K fiver behind a 350 dually on a Reese 18K hitch and a MorRyde pin box and we hardly know it's back there. Have over 50K towing and have been on all kinds of roads over the years.


x2. Our TV and MorRyde provide a remarkably good "ryde" - no kiddin. Trailer weight is more like 16K but still....


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